1953 # 29

[Tyler T.]

Many of you do not get to CAC but there is a thread there that is of interest to all of us. In the end it will provide a framework that those who find a barn car and want to restore it. It also shows the strengths and weaknesses of registries. A person can 'see' which cars are not alive and 'find' it but it also allows us that have found such a car a chance to make it known and keep it from being parked on before we can get a title. I did this with my 55.

We are working to have the Florida car at the Winter Regional and invite those of you who are in the know on the early 53s to come.

http://www.corvetteactioncenter.com/forums/c1-c2-general-technical-discussion/117527-53-corvette-29-x2.html

[Tom H.]

Re: 1953 # 29

I have been following this story on several sites. Very interesting.

[Edward M.]

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I have been following it as well.

This will ultimately shake out in the legal system.

It has prompted me to push a friend to get his 53 registered. He does not want to put it on any registry sites. I may be able to change his mind about that, but having the car legally registered with the state is a good step.

[Tyler T.]

Re: 1953 # 29

I have been following it as well.

This will ultimately shake out in the legal system.

It has prompted me to push a friend to get his 53 registered. He does not want to put it on any registry sites. I may be able to change his mind about that, but having the car legally registered with the state is a good step.

I am trying to find out if there is some sort of purging that happens at the DMV in Fl if a car is not licensced over a period of time. I had my 55 titled a couple of years ago but have not gotten a tag so its of interest to me. It appears in this case she had all the title info but the car had not been on the road for a number of years. If your friend has a title he might check with his DMV to make sure his ownership is noted on a title search from another state. If not the registry is the safest way to establish some kind of ownership.

Tyler

[Harmon C.]

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I know that a few years ago I got title work done and the clerck said Ohio just had went on line to check to see if the VIN was registered in another state. She said now you know if their are problems that before went unnoticed. I think the cross check is something that happened in the last five years.

[Edward M.]

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I am trying to find out if there is some sort of purging that happens at the DMV in Fl if a car is not licensced over a period of time. I had my 55 titled a couple of years ago but have not gotten a tag so its of interest to me. It appears in this case she had all the title info but the car had not been on the road for a number of years. If your friend has a title he might check with his DMV to make sure his ownership is noted on a title search from another state. If not the registry is the safest way to establish some kind of ownership.

Tyler

This is Alabama. Cars older than 1975 are not titled. Your proof of ownership is your vehicle registration. Makes for some interesting situations.

I have both of my 56 Vettes, and my 56 Chevy registered with Alabama. All three cars show up in the National Motor Vehicle Title Information System as being registered in Alabama.

[Edward M.]

Re: 1953 # 29

I know that a few years ago I got title work done and the clerck said Ohio just had went on line to check to see if the VIN was registered in another state. She said now you know if their are problems that before went unnoticed. I think the cross check is something that happened in the last five years.

National Motor Vehicle Title Information System. Currently 14 states participate and inquire before issuing titles, 14 states provide data only, 11 states are in development, 12 not participating (includes DC).

Florida and Indiana are participating and inquire before issuing title, which is how Florida was able to determine that #29 was registered in Indiana. Ohio also participates. All states are required to start reporting by Jan 1, 2010.

[Dick W.]

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I am trying to find out if there is some sort of purging that happens at the DMV in Fl if a car is not licensced over a period of time. I had my 55 titled a couple of years ago but have not gotten a tag so its of interest to me. It appears in this case she had all the title info but the car had not been on the road for a number of years. If your friend has a title he might check with his DMV to make sure his ownership is noted on a title search from another state. If not the registry is the safest way to establish some kind of ownership.

Tyler

When you find that out please let me know.

[Roy B.]

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National Motor Vehicle Title Information System. Currently 14 states participate and inquire before issuing titles, 14 states provide data only, 11 states are in development, 12 not participating (includes DC).

Florida and Indiana are participating and inquire before issuing title, which is how Florida was able to determine that #29 was registered in Indiana. Ohio also participates. All states are required to start reporting by Jan 1, 2010.

2010 now that's going to be interesting

[Tyler T.]

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When you find that out please let me know.

Will do but I would check with the state you live in and see how long a car is tracked/listed if you do not continue the registration ie get a tag. Alabama will issue a title on a pre 75 car if you ask, thats how I got my 55 registered in FL as FL would only accept a title for the car when I went to title in it Florida.

Tyler

[Dick W.]

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Will do but I would check with the state you live in and see how long a car is tracked/listed if you do not continue the registration ie get a tag. Alabama will issue a title on a pre 75 car if you ask, thats how I got my 55 registered in FL as FL would only accept a title for the car when I went to title in it Florida.

Tyler

NC tells me that the title was canceled to Florida. From there it seems to have gone in a black hole.

[Tyler T.]

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NC tells me that the title was canceled to Florida. From there it seems to have gone in a black hole.

What does the canceled to Florida mean and when was it done? I guess this goes back to the original question I am trying to get an answer to. At some time does a DMV allow or effect a cancelation of title for a car and if so what is that time period? Hopefully I will get the answer on Monday.

Guess I will have to talk to my astrophysist son and get an explanation on black holes.LOL

Again I hope this thread helps us to the understand realities of titles. I wonder about the fallout of the 2010 date on DMV reporting. I know several years ago 2 1967 Corvettes with the same vin were presented for judging, both owners were asked for verification. One disappeared during the night but both had aparent titles and plates when originally presented. Since states did not cross check in the past there could be some real time bombs out there.

Tyler

[Joseph T.]

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What does the canceled to Florida mean and when was it done? I guess this goes back to the original question I am trying to get an answer to. At some time does a DMV allow or effect a cancelation of title for a car and if so what is that time period? Hopefully I will get the answer on Monday.

Guess I will have to talk to my astrophysist son and get an explanation on black holes.LOL

Again I hope this thread helps us to the understand realities of titles. I wonder about the fallout of the 2010 date on DMV reporting. I know several years ago 2 1967 Corvettes with the same vin were presented for judging, both owners were asked for verification. One disappeared during the night but both had aparent titles and plates when originally presented. Since states did not cross check in the past there could be some real time bombs out there.

Tyler

Tyler

I bought a one owner 54 still on the original title in Texas. I thought what an opportunity to call the Texas DMV and get a copy of the MSO.

When I called they said since the car had not been registered for liscence plates since 1967..the title file was long gone.

When I asked how I would retitle it..they said I would submit the original title which they would activate for one day to transfer the title to a new state.

I suspect many states have long since purged their title files for the 50's and 60's.

Joe

[Bruce B.]

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A few years ago I bought a project 54 out of Connecticut. No title but a valid registration and a bill of sale. The seller cut a hole in the floor and we confirmed the stamped serial number on the frame matched the title and vin tag.
I got an Ohio title based on my paperwork and made a nice driver out of the car.
A few years after I sold the car it appeared in the C1 registry but was not registered by the guy I sold it to, who by the way still owned the car.
No doubt in my mind the C1 registry car was a fraud.

States cross checking vins will bring up some interesting situations...

[Brett H.]

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Tyler, thanks for posting this information here.

I look forward to seeing the FL #029 at the Winter Regional, in January.