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  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #16
    Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
    What'd you do - look it up in some database?
    Naw...I keep all that stuff in my head.

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    • Patrick H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • December 1, 1989
      • 11643

      #17
      Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

      Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
      Naw...I keep all that stuff in my head.
      LOL!

      If I look around here... yah, I've got that same "file."

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      • Chris E.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 3, 2006
        • 1326

        #18
        Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

        Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
        Yup, and the 3829056 is black while the 3829058 is ugly green. The size is different for different size hose OD.

        Pic of NOS of each size below.
        AHAH! See, I knew the answer was out there somewhere as to why I was nailed for 1 point in judging for having the wrong color clamps on my brake booster hose......

        Thanks guys.
        Chris Enstrom
        North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
        1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
        2011 Z06, red/red

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        • Michael H.
          Expired
          • January 29, 2008
          • 7477

          #19
          Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

          Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
          AHAH! See, I knew the answer was out there somewhere as to why I was nailed for 1 point in judging for having the wrong color clamps on my brake booster hose......

          Thanks guys.
          So, if you already have black power brake booster hose clamps, yer all set. No green required. (unless you need it for other clamps)

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          • Chris E.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • November 3, 2006
            • 1326

            #20
            Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

            Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
            So, if you already have black power brake booster hose clamps, yer all set. No green required. (unless you need it for other clamps)
            Ok, so now I'm really confused, because on page 79 of the 67 TIM/JG, it says about the PCV hose...."Two black phosphate spring tension-type clamps secure the hose."

            John said that the green part # clamp was for the PCV hose, and the black was for the brake booster hose, right?

            ????...............
            Chris Enstrom
            North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
            1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
            2011 Z06, red/red

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #21
              Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

              Originally posted by Chris Enstrom (46481)
              Ok, so now I'm really confused, because on page 79 of the 67 TIM/JG, it says about the PCV hose...."Two black phosphate spring tension-type clamps secure the hose."

              John said that the green part # clamp was for the PCV hose, and the black was for the brake booster hose, right?

              ????...............
              I don't have an AIM handy but I believe both the power brake hose and the PCV hose use the black clamps, part number 3829058.

              I think the green clamps are only used on the fuel line hose at the fuel pump and fuel tank sender.

              If someone here has a 64-67 AIM handy, maybe they can confirm the different clamp for the fuel line hose.

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              • Mike M.
                Director Region V
                • August 31, 1994
                • 1463

                #22
                Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                Very interesting
                Here we go again...
                The '67 and '65 JG make no mention of the clips, '66 says Green (Easily edited if necessary)
                Nice pics, weren't those clips with the square ends used in the shark years (Black) and became service replacements for the M-Y's?
                Keep 'em coming...
                HaND

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                • Mike M.
                  Director Region V
                  • August 31, 1994
                  • 1463

                  #23
                  Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                  Ahaaa,
                  The '67 AIM confirms John's comments, 056 for the booster hose and 058 on the PCV hose .
                  The '66 AIM shows 058 for both.
                  HaND

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                  • Michael H.
                    Expired
                    • January 29, 2008
                    • 7477

                    #24
                    Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                    Originally posted by Mike Murray (25129)
                    Ahaaa,
                    The '67 AIM confirms John's comments, 056 for the booster hose and 058 on the PCV hose .
                    The '66 AIM shows 058 for both.
                    HaND
                    What about the fuel line clamp?

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                    • David S.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • August 9, 2009
                      • 595

                      #25
                      Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                      Originally posted by Michael Hanson (4067)
                      What about the fuel line clamp?
                      Don't know the part numbers but 66 fuel line clamps are green, and PCV are black.

                      -Dave

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                      • Michael H.
                        Expired
                        • January 29, 2008
                        • 7477

                        #26
                        Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                        Originally posted by David Schutzbank (50698)
                        Don't know the part numbers but 66 fuel line clamps are green, and PCV are black.

                        -Dave
                        Yup, I think so too.

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                        • Mike M.
                          Director Region V
                          • August 31, 1994
                          • 1463

                          #27
                          Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                          Curiouser and curiouser...
                          Both the '66 & '67 AIMs show the clips at the fuel pumps to be 3786276.
                          HaND

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                          • Michael H.
                            Expired
                            • January 29, 2008
                            • 7477

                            #28
                            Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                            Originally posted by Mike Murray (25129)
                            Curiouser and curiouser...
                            Both the '66 & '67 AIMs show the clips at the fuel pumps to be 3786276.
                            HaND
                            Yup. The small green clamp.

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                            • Terry M.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • September 30, 1980
                              • 15600

                              #29
                              Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                              Yes, the square ends are applicable for 1968 to around mid-1970s someplace. You will have to ask the 1973 and newer guys when the use of the square ends ended and the round -- "safety clamps" began.

                              FWIW: For 1968+: Black clamps for Power Brake vacuum hose
                              Green clamps for PCV

                              I realize that is not the subject of this thread, however.
                              Terry

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                              • Chris E.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • November 3, 2006
                                • 1326

                                #30
                                Re: Power brake hose clamps, what color green?

                                Ok, so this brings up a really interesting question.

                                If I get dinged for a point like this on the judging field where the 6 or 7 of us here on the TDB are having trouble coming to a quick and conclusive answer, HOW DO I DEFEND MY POSITION ON THE JUDGING FIELD? Especially when the color of a part is not called out in the TIM/JG?

                                Again, I'm going for Duntov, and I know I'm going to get somewhere between a 9 and 22 point deduct at Regionals or Nationals. Since I can only afford to lose 135 points total, if I lose 22 on paint, I need to save every point where I can.
                                Chris Enstrom
                                North Central Chapter Judging Chairman
                                1967 Rally Red convertible, 327/350, 4 speed, Duntov @ Hampton in 2013, Founders @ KC in 2014, family owned since 1973
                                2011 Z06, red/red

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