1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

[M W.]

Hi all,

I am trying to grasp what the judges mean everytime I have my car
Flight Judged that my washer nozzles are not correctly configured or cut out is incorrect. The current ones on my car were NOS units I purchased a while back and the second ones are a supposed set of originals I purchased from a well respected vendor. Can someone look at my pictures and give me an opinion on what's right and what's wrong? I don't want to install the second only to find out the first set is actually correct.

Thanks,
Craig



Back side of mounted nozzles


Second Set


Back Side of second set

[M W.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Craig,

I don't see a picture attached. However, originals are chrome with an adjustable brass ball. Most of the repros are not adjustable. That would be my guess as to the deduction.

Nope that's not it at all Donald. These move freely and are in great condition. Sorry about the pictures. I didn't have them posted yet.

Thanks,
Craig

[Jack H.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Hum, weren't you there when the car was judged? Didn't the judges debrief you?

Where, I'm coming from, Craig, is that sometimes you'll encounter a judge and score that's incorrect and it's hard to 'forensically' determine a deduction after the fact...

I know the owner is bombarded with information at a judging meet, but THAT is the place to ask questions and understand the deduction(s) that were made (whether the judge's call is right or wrong)...

A handy hint is there's only so much textual information you can absorb, but a picture in another issue altogether. So, if the judges' explanation is 'fuzzy' when they explain things, ask if there's another car at the meet with the 'correct' item you can look at. Typically, they'll be quite helpful in this regard...

[M W.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

You are correct Jack. I try and ask the judges as much as humanly possible. When a judge states it's incorrect I say okay and figure I can try and determine what it was about the part later. Obviously a big mistake. But I would like a general opiinion on the nozzles. Correct or incorrect?

Thanks,
Craig

[Alan D.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Hear are some current offerings - the O is original. Yours look original to me, but if needed I can take a few pictures of the originals on my car.
The hardware you are showing looks OK also (unable to help on the hardware)

The picture is from a presentation which Joe Randolph did a while ago for our local club.

[M W.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Thanks Alan. Any other pictures are greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
Craig

[Joseph S.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Hello Craig, I'll try to describe what I see from your pictures. The nozzles you are holding in your hand look original "to me". The ones bolted to your wiper grilles look like the current reproductions with the movable brass squirters.

Here are the differences in the 2 nozzles. The originals have a much smoother transition from round surfaces to flat surfaces like they were molded that shape. The reproductions look like the flat surfaces were machined out of the original castings. Also the original squirter balls were held in by brass retainers that have a radiused shape to them and the reproduction retainers have a flat shape to them.

I hope this helps.

Joe

[Alan D.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

A few more pictures - not of the best quality (sorry)!

Shown are 2 original nozzles, one nozzle taken apart beside a whole nozzle
Brass insert has drill in it.

[Peter L.]

Re: 1964 windshield washer nozzle ?

Craig - I agree with Joe in that the "hand-held" ones look to me to originals and for the reasons he indicated. Pete