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  • Roy B.
    Expired
    • February 1, 1975
    • 7044

    #16
    Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

    I've found that some do while others dont or have a (0) or "C" or "M" different suppliers

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    • Ridge K.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 2006
      • 1018

      #17
      Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

      Mark, Ian, Roy (182), and all others......thanks for the comments, photos, and follow-up. This is the kind of thread where many can learn, from the observations and experience of others. Ridge.
      Good carburetion is fuelish hot air . . .

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      • Don G.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 1, 1989
        • 251

        #18
        Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

        I was a shop foreman in 1959 and ran the line that produced the canisters. They were painted a semi-gloss black with conventional spray guns automatically as the canister was carried by monorail through the paint booth.

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        • Steven B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • June 30, 1982
          • 3990

          #19
          Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

          Originally posted by Don & Dolores Griffin (14721)
          I was a shop foreman in 1959 and ran the line that produced the canisters. They were painted a semi-gloss black with conventional spray guns automatically as the canister was carried by monorail through the paint booth.
          Don, it is great to have a first hand source for the info. Thanks! When they were painted did the canisters spin? How many guns shot them and from what directions? Lacquer or enamel? Any info. on how and when the white lettering was done?

          Thans agian!

          Steve

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          • Stuart F.
            Expired
            • August 31, 1996
            • 4676

            #20
            Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

            Just a little side note; I have an original 63 and I looked into having my canister refurbished by Paragon and passed due to the expense and the fact that a few years back I had bought their replacement. The replacement is about half the gauge thickness, but it looks good. I change off between them at each oil change as I refurbished my original and used a decal (they only last a few years). The replacement is hard to work with though as when you pre-fill it with oil, it tends to leak badly before you can get it mounted. That doesn't happen with the original. I also have a spin on filter adapter kit which I have not used as yet, but when you put a black Wix filter on you have to look twice to notice from above.

            Stu Fox

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            • Larry C.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 1, 1980
              • 279

              #21
              Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

              Stuart,

              I have never heard of anyone pre-filling an oil filter cannister prior to installation. What is the reasoning for doing this?

              Larry

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              • Paul J.
                Expired
                • September 9, 2008
                • 2091

                #22
                Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                Larry:

                It's the same concept as "priming" or filling a spin-on filter. Some people like to do this to minimze the amount of time it takes the pump to fill the filter and have the engine running with low oil pressure. None of my service manuals say to do this, and I did'nt until I realized that it does'nt hurt anything and it's just a little extra insurance.

                I don't believe that it makes a lot of difference either way.

                Paul

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                • Stuart F.
                  Expired
                  • August 31, 1996
                  • 4676

                  #23
                  Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                  Larry;

                  Paul stated it about right. I never used to do it either, but on some of my cars years past I would get a little rattle after initial start up after an oil change. I recall using great care not to give it more than idle throttle on start because of that. My 63 L-76 is specially prone to do this and it scares the heck out of me. I always invisioned I was wrecking my Morraine 400 rod bearings, or at least experiencing some unwanted piston slap. A number of our more respected experts always spoke of this (filling the filter) so I thought I'd give it a try. Since doing it, I no longer hear any reports from the engine on initial start. I always run the engine to full operating temperature before draining, then usually let it drip itself out while I'm doing chassis grease and refill prep.

                  Stu Fox

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                  • Don G.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 1, 1989
                    • 251

                    #24
                    Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                    Originally posted by Steven Brohard (5759)
                    Don, it is great to have a first hand source for the info. Thanks! When they were painted did the canisters spin? How many guns shot them and from what directions? Lacquer or enamel? Any info. on how and when the white lettering was done?

                    Thans agian!

                    Steve
                    Steve
                    I will try to answer your questions with the understanding that it was almost 50 years ago and I have trouble remebering what I had for breakfast! I believe the canisters turned slowly as the hangers engaged a gear rack in the booth. I think it was an electrostatic paint system where the paint was charged either positive or negative and the canister was the opposite charge. The paint was emitted from a spinning tool ( probably two) and the paint particles were attracted to the canister. Since the paint was quick drying I assume it was a lacquer base. The printing was applied by a flat silkscreen while the canister was in a horizontal position and free to rotate against the sikscreen. A quick drying white ink was used. The canisters were manually loaded onto a rotary table where the stud assembly was installed and staked.

                    I might add that the canister was formed in a 600 ton transfer press that probably had 8-10 draw dies. This is how we were able to maintain uniform wall thickness.

                    Don
                    Last edited by Don G.; November 2, 2008, 10:04 PM. Reason: Add information

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                    • Mark P.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 13, 2008
                      • 934

                      #25
                      Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                      Don,

                      Thank you for providing this info. It is very valuable. Do you remember if their were multiple bolt suppliers, thus the M, AMP and blank bolt heads that we have seen ?

                      Thanks,

                      Mark

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                      • Don G.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • March 1, 1989
                        • 251

                        #26
                        Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                        Mark

                        Sorry, I have no recollection of who supplied the bolts.

                        Don

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                        • Steven B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • June 30, 1982
                          • 3990

                          #27
                          Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                          Don, thanks! This is the kind of knowledge we need to maintain---and it is fun to know! As for breakfast, I wrote it down but I can't remember where I put the note.

                          Thanks!

                          Steve

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                          • Mark P.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • May 13, 2008
                            • 934

                            #28
                            Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration - RESOLVED !

                            Here is the response Tim Mickey e-mailed to Greg McCollough yesterday about his 1960 Oil Canister question:

                            "All three head markings are original. ( M,AP and plain) The repos use AP and plain. That is why the judges like the M so much. It is for sure real. Recently had a judge make a deduction for an AP bolt. He would not back off until I sent him a photo."

                            This is also consistent with the response from Roy Braatz.

                            Thank you everyone for your help on this !

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                            • Roy B.
                              Expired
                              • February 1, 1975
                              • 7044

                              #29
                              Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                              This is a great example of why I talk (so much) about first, second, third ,different suppliers, logo's and design. I realize most think the JM is the bible , but all I try to do is inform people it could be improved. We see this mentioned all the time here ,but think it matters vary little because were so few that discuss these things.

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                              • Bob S.
                                Very Frequent User
                                • August 12, 2007
                                • 185

                                #30
                                Re: C1 Oil Canister Restoration

                                Stuart - What is the number on the WIX spin on? I am considering this option while I have my canister refurbed.
                                Sully

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