Garage heating and cooling

[Grant M.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

One of my outside mechanics has it in his commercial garage and swears by it. There are residential-sized units available. One (potential) problem is the nature of radiant heating from one of these units. I would be concerned about the radiant heat effect on a Corvette body long-term and at close range (a few feet). I plan to install a four post lift and store the Corvette on top, which would be very close to where I'd have to run a radiant heater. I have the brochure for one of these units and it specifies clearance from flammables (like a flannel car cover), which, in my case, wouldn't have given me enough room. So I'm going with a gas space heater.

grant

[Roger W.]

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Where did you purchase the pliable continuous vinyl lip seals? The Home Depot or Lowes in the Springfield Massachusetts area don't have anything like this.
Also, did you install the tubular seals between the door sections yourself or did they come with the doors?

Thanks,
Roger Williams Hinckley (29964);375908]Tom -

I have two 1-1/2"-thick steel-foam-steel insulated 18' x 8' sectional doors with tubular seals between the sections, with pliable continuous vinyl lip seals on the outside across the top and down both sides, with large hollow-section rubber seals across the bottom. Photo below shows the configuration of the outside vinyl seals (vertical molding and seal lip in the center of the photo).

Between these door seals and R-26 in the walls and R-58 in the ceiling and insulation/moisture barrier under the epoxy floor (4' x 8' sheets of 5/8"-thick high-density closed-cell foam with heavy foil on both sides, laid on top of a 10-mil poly barrier before pouring the slab), the garage is easy to heat and cool and the floor is always warm and dry (and easy to keep clean).[/quote]

[Tom M.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

UNIT PICTURE, MOUNTED ON CEILING, POWER VENT,30,000 BTU

WORKS GOOD

Tom

This is the best unit, no open flames, direct vent to outside wall

[John H.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Where did you purchase the pliable continuous vinyl lip seals? The Home Depot or Lowes in the Springfield Massachusetts area don't have anything like this.
Also, did you install the tubular seals between the door sections yourself or did they come with the doors?

Thanks,
Roger Williams

Roger -

I specified those garage door lip seals to the architect when we built the house eight years ago, and he made sure the builder used them; don't know where the builder got them, but they're pretty common around here. The tubular seals between the door sections came on the doors (I specified those too).

[Grant M.]

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Roger,

I have seals all around my insulated steel doors that came as an optional part of the door package from the manufacturer (Garaga). The seal on the bottom of the door is of the thick, tubular type and the side seals extend right to the floor with some extra which helps seal against the door bottom seal. I would assume that other door manufacturers offering insulated doors would also have such an option package.

grant

[Roger W.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Thanks,
I will look for the strips at a few more places

Roger

[Doug C.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Herer are a couple of sources for radiant tube infrared garage heaters

http://calcana.com/contact.html

http://www.rg-inc.com/caribe-infrared-garage-heater.htm

[Roger W.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

I got one free several years ago and used it.
It sucks up electricity and doesn't get that warm.
When the fan broke I did not replace it with a similar model.

I now have one similar to this:



Works great. The only drawback is that if you put it on high for a while you'll have plenty of humidity. Warm the garage up slowly and you're fine.

Patrick

Do you have the brand and part number for your heater? I have looked a a few catalogs and did not see any similar heater.

Thanks,
Roger

[Roger W.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Do you happen to know the manufacturer and part of this heater? I have looked in a few catalogs, but could not find a similar heater
Thanks
Roger

I got one free several years ago and used it.
It sucks up electricity and doesn't get that warm.
When the fan broke I did not replace it with a similar model.

I now have one similar to this:



Works great. The only drawback is that if you put it on high for a while you'll have plenty of humidity. Warm the garage up slowly and you're fine.

Patrick

[Joe R.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Here's an update to my quest for Garage Mahal status.

I decided to go with a natural gas heater. I got a Dayton heater. I believe it is 60,000 BTU input, 48,000 BTU output. I don't have the specs handy right now. With three guys helping we hung it from the ceiling. One of the helpers is a union sheet metal man, he did the rest of the installation. Since the walls aren't framed yet, we temporarily hooked it up to a thermostat and power just in time for summer. We test fired it, it really seemed to put out the heat.

Right now I'm working on putting 9 shop lights in the ceiling, using advice from Gary Chestnut and others.

Next I have a concrete man who will grind down a settlement crack so that it will be easier to roll heavy stuff around. Then I will install Simpson strong ties to the beams along the top of the walls to hold the rafters so I can remove the X beams in the ceiling. After that I plan to have a roll up garage door installed because the garage isn't deep enough to put a lift in otherwise. Then I will seal the brick using Thompson's water seal per the recommendation of the tuck pointers. Next is framing with metal studs and putting the electric in. I bought a Sanyo air conditioner model number 24KS72 plus DL04100820 20 ' line set. I'll probably get that installed just in time for winter. Then comes the air compressor, insulation, drywall, floor coating and four post lift.

Sounds easy, don't it?

I have attached some pictures. If you look closely at the first picture you can see the heater hanging in the back.

Joe

[Gary C.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Joe, sounds like a good plan. One point - Thompson's wasn't recommended to me to use when we built in 2003 because it's water soluble. Don't recall what a Mason supply store recommended and we used. Gary....

[Joe R.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Gary,

Maybe I'll try Drylok instead. Thanks for the additional info!

Joe

[Tom K.]

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Congratulations. It looks like you are making some progress. Soon you will be able to work on the Vette.
hopefully I will be at the next meeting. We found ourselves very busy this summer and missed all of the meetings at JJ's.
Tom

[Joe R.]

Re: Garage heating and cooling

Hey Tom,

It's good to hear from you. The garage is further along than the pictures show, I just don't have anything more recent. I have about half of the wiring for the lights done. I am making progress, just not very fast due to time constraints. I hope to see you at the next meeting.

Joe

[Terry M.]

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Then I will install Simpson strong ties to the beams along the top of the walls to hold the rafters so I can remove the X beams in the ceiling.
Joe

Joe,

That roof makes me jealous. There are a number of those tile roofs left on both garages and bungalows in my neighborhood.

Be very careful in what you do to your rafters. Those tiles are uber heavy, and the roof structure needs a lot of strength to support that weight.

Don't break those tiles because you will never be able to replace them