67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

[Gerard F.]

Well I decided to go with the rear flaps. Here is the ultimate template for the carpet cuts:



Yep, used the tracks themselves as the template for the carpet cuts. You have to take the seats out anyway, why not take the tracks off and use them positioned to the bolt holes.

Bolted down and with the cuts made, things look nice and clean:



Here's a closeup of the rear flaps bolted down:



Bet you can't even tell the flaps are there.

However, I can see why they may have done a full cut on the rear pads on the assembly line.

Try setting the seat with the tracks attached and with only two hands. You need at least three hands to set the seat and lift the flaps over the pads, then set the bolts. What a PITA, took me about 20 minutes per seat with lots of expletives.

For you bolt guys, here's and original seat bolt (which I black phosphated when I did the seats a few years ago):



It's a recessed head hex with captive washer, and a head marking of L surrounded by a G.

The little strip of carpet in the background (approx 1" X 2") is the only thing I cut out for the rear seat pads. It fits nicely into the back of the track, so I'm going to leave it there per Mike Murray's advice.

Having fun,

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Fantastic job and it certainly looks much neater than the cut outs. So, remind me for the 100th time, the front flaps (uncut part) face the door or the center console? I am planning to replace my carpet this winter.

Kirk

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Kirk,

On the front flaps, the hinge of the flap is closest to the center of the seat. They are opposite hand of each other.

[Ralph E.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Kirk,

On the front flaps, the hinge of the flap is closest to the center of the seat. They are opposite hand of each other.

How about a close up picture of the flaps!
Sure would help others.

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Here you go Ralph:

Front Flap closed:



Front Flap open:




Rear Flaps Closed:



Rear Flaps Open:



Remember this is 67 only, and with the rear flaps late 67.

[Kirk M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Here you go Ralph:

Front Flap closed:



Front Flap open:




Rear Flaps Closed:



Rear Flaps Open:



Remember this is 67 only, and with the rear flaps late 67.

Jerry,

By late do you have a vin cutoff number. I'm 16,469 with an April 18 build date. So, flaps or no? Thanks.

Kirk

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Kirk,

I don't think anyone has a cutoff VIN. It probably depended upon who the carpet cutter or seat installer was when the car came through.

I think I'd put the rear flaps on yours. You can easily cut them off, but you can't put them back. Besides, the flaps look so much neater

[Mike M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Nice work, Jerry, maybe a little too neat for factory work, but, that's OK.
Uhhh, I have carpet and a car, what are doing say, next Sunday afernoon for a couple of hours?
On original cars, the flaps tend to curl upward with age.
HaND

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Mike,

Sunday afternoon for a couple of hours?

Your kidding, not the way I work. At least a two weekend job for me.
But I'm having fun.

After the driver side carpet, the passenger side was a snap. I got smart and found my third hand:



Yes, I taped the flaps open to set the seat in place. The seat went in in 5 minutes, and I only uttered one expletive when one of the flaps went under.

Do you think the assembly guys would have done it this way? Probably not with blue masking tape.

Finished the carpet up tonight:



Replaced the carpet on the kick panels, reused the original 6 all alike kick panel screws. Wait til you see the restored console.

And for the judges, I left the only cutout piece of carpet, shoved into the track at the 4 rear corners:



Just having fun,

[Mike M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Looks Nice, Jerry. Nice smooth, tight fit.
Any issues with a surplus behind the accelerator pedal?
I agree with your earlier comment about the particular installers preference on the cutouts. I suspect (only a theory) the carpets were cutout prior to the trim line by a worker or possibly the carpet supplier. Some installers found a method to work around the flaps and others just cut the flaps off on the fly rather than fight them.
Otherwise, the expediant guys would have removed the flap portion with the cutout in one piece and we would not have seen the cutouts remaining in the car.
Maybe someone can confirm the process.
When do we get to see that console?
Having Fun is a Good Thing!
HaND

[Tom M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Jerry,

Any pics of behind the pedals?

Thanks,

Tom M

[Mike M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Try again...
Most, but, not all were cut behind the accelerator.
It depended upon how much "surplus and pucker" remained.
"The carpet behind the gas pedal is cut approximately eight inches down from the accelerator linkage attachment to the body. The left flap then overlaps the right to allow for a flush fit of the surplus carpet against the firewall and the side console areas. The carpet is also removed from around the accelerator linkage attachment to body area.
The forward footwell carpet section tucks under the firewall insulation."
Further,
"The pedal base is raised off the floor pan by a pressed board block which is placed under the floor heel pad. The carpet is removed from under the heel pad area where the block rests. This allows the accelerator linkage to precisely contact the plastic insert on the back of the gas pedal. The pedal will appear to be sitting in a hole if the spacer is missing."
Hand

[Tom M.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Mike,

Thanks for the quick answer to the cuts behind the gas pedal, does anyone have any pics?

Thanks,

Tom M

[Ralph E.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Jerry,
Thanks for the pictures.

Ralph

[Gerard F.]

Re: 67 Carpet Cuts Revisited

Tom/Mike,

I think as Mike said, some have that cut behind the gas pedal, some don't.

At the 2007 National, I went to a great Tech Session on carpets where they had all these original carpets laid out by year. I had my camera with me and was interested in the 67 carpets. I took pictures of the seat cuts, as well as the cut behind the brake console. I remember noting (in my mind) that the 66 carpet I looked at had a cut behind the gas pedal, but the 67 didn't. So I didn't take a picture of it.

However, I do have an excess problem behind the gas pedal in my current replacement project, not too bad but:



The picture is a little fuzzy but the gap you see below the firewall insulation pops out about a half inch from the firewall. (Note that on my car, the flange of the insulation which is supposed to cover the carpet broke off some years ago. Another project, another day)

I tried to cut the carpeting even with the bottom of the firewall insulation but because of the excess, the carpet bulges out about a half inch in the area shown in the picture. A smaller wedge (smaller than 8") could probably solve this problem. But I think I'm going to just try and glue it back. If it is a problem, I'll address it when I get to the firewall insulation.

On to the driver side kick panel, what a PITA working under the dash:



Here is some lessons learned:

1. Put the kick panels in before you put the seats in.
2. Set the forward screws first.
3. Have some U-shaped speed nuts available for the rear upper two screw holes. (Fiberglass strips out fairly easy, as I found)

But I had some fun today.