C2 keys in Judging

[Stuart F.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

John D.:

Welcome back to the TDB. Hope your efforts at Carlisle were successful. Look forward to hearing more about what it was like.

With your one key, are you able to remove it from the ignition in any position? I know I do when my car is running as I often lock and unlock the glove box then, but I wonder if mine is just worn so much that I can do this or if it is normal.

Stu Fox

[Mike M.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

Yes Stuart, your ignition key was originally removable from any position.
HaND

[Jack H.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

"ignition key was originally removable from any position"

That statement differs from what's stated in the '63-67 Performance Verification Manual...

[Mike M.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

True, Jack,
'6's & '7's are different.
HaND

[Stephen L.]

Re: Matching Number Keys

I find it interesting that the key knock-outs match the numbers in the "Corvette Order" documents. See the attached:

Mark,
The key numbers on the CORVETTE ORDER COPY should match those on the keys. This info was kept by the Dealer for key replacement in the event of key loss by the owner. Keys can be cut from these numbers by locksmiths.

[John H.]

Re: Matching Number Keys

I find it interesting that the key knock-outs match the numbers in the "Corvette Order" documents. See the attached:

The key numbers (and the engine, trans, axle numbers, and carburetor code and the "date produced", plus the last six digits of the VIN at the bottom) were hand-typed on the "Corvette Order" copy #7 by a clerk at the end of the Final Line with an IBM Selectric typewriter; that form (and the carboned window sticker and Car Shipper, plus the "Corvette Order Copy" ["tank sticker"]) were all computer-printed LONG before the car was actually built, so none of that detail information was available when the forms were pre-printed. That #7 copy went with the car to the dealer - that's all he had until the Dealer Wholesale Invoice arrived in the mail.

[Dan H.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

You fellows are lucky to have the two key system. My 63 just has the one and, as best I can recall, I have always been able to pull my ignition key out to lock/unlock my glove box. The last 20 or 30 years I have been wondering whether that was normal, or are my keys just worn that much?

Stu Fox

Stu, my 64 owners manual under 'starting the engine' ignition switch, that the key cannot be removed from the ACC or OFF positions. Check your 63 manual and see if it's the same. Jack is correct, the PV Guide spells it out correctly for removal etc.
Dan

[Peter L.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

My 2nd Ed. 1966 Owner's Guide (p.5) states "The ignition key has four positions as shown (ACCESSORY OFF ON START). The key may be removed only when the switch is in the OFF position."

My 1st Ed. 67 Corvette Owner's Manual (p. 6) states "The ignition key has four positions as shown (ACCESSORY OFF ON START). The key may be removed only when the switch is in the OFF position."

Pete

[Stuart F.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

Dan;

My 63 Owners Guide is consistent with your 64. I guess I never really tried to remove the key in OFF or ACC positions as the only time I ever removed it was while it was running in order to open my glove box. I was surprised to read that the switch can be moved from OFF to ON position and vice versa without the key. My manual is a second edition probably because it is a July 63 build. It still has the page stub in it from which I ordered the Patch, Lapel Pin and I.D. Card. I still have the patch and pin, but not sure where the card is.

I have the original key and several copies acquired through the years. You use that darn one key for everything (doors, ignition, glove box and spare tire lock). No wonder they wear out fast.

Stu Fox

[Nick C.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

Keys and locks seem to be causing difficulty during Ops and PV judging lately.

A recent discussion led to a comparison of the wording regarding operation and function of the ignition switch on 66 and 67 cars in their respective Owner's Manuals

The wording is similar for both; the ignition (octagonal) key must be depressed before it can be turned to the accessory position. The key can only be removed in the off position.

Door locks operate differently because of the "free wheeling" saftey feature unique to '67s...

Key part numbers are not judged, knock outs and key codes are.

[Charles M.]

Re: No knockouts? One can buy new code-stamped keys

just became a new member last week how do i get pat kraus phone # I have a 1963 fast back 327 300 hp A M raido saddle in and out vin # 12286 all mint 75,000 miles was on motor week tv porgram

[Charles M.]

Re: No knockouts? One can buy new code-stamped keys

just became a new member last week how do i get pat kraus phone # I have a 1963 fast back 327 300 hp A M raido saddle in and out vin # 12286 all mint 75,000 miles was on motor week tv porgram

would like to get the right keys made

[Dick W.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

Charles, Pete Lindal, a poster in this thread, is also a good source for correct keys.

[Tom R.]

Re: Matching Number Keys

The key numbers (and the engine, trans, axle numbers, and carburetor code and the "date produced", plus the last six digits of the VIN at the bottom) were hand-typed on the "Corvette Order" copy #7 by a clerk at the end of the Final Line with an IBM Selectric typewriter; that form (and the carboned window sticker and Car Shipper, plus the "Corvette Order Copy" ["tank sticker"]) were all computer-printed LONG before the car was actually built, so none of that detail information was available when the forms were pre-printed. That #7 copy went with the car to the dealer - that's all he had until the Dealer Wholesale Invoice arrived in the mail.

Interesting to see the evolution of Corvette build documention for late model C3s...we see the key codes on the build sheets and unless blocked, should reconcile with knockouts...checked during judging. We don't ask for build sheets though. Most of which JH sites, is preprinted on those build sheets and document authencity

[Wayne M.]

Re: C2 keys in Judging

My 2nd Ed. 1966 Owner's Guide (p.5) states "The ignition key has four positions as shown (ACCESSORY OFF ON START). The key may be removed only when the switch is in the OFF position."

My 1st Ed. 67 Corvette Owner's Manual (p. 6) states "The ignition key has four positions as shown (ACCESSORY OFF ON START). The key may be removed only when the switch is in the OFF position."

Pete

Hi Pete -- we poor 1965's owners are being left out of this thread . Just to add that the (original) first edition '65 owner's Guide reads exactly as do your '66 and '67.