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  • Michael H.
    Expired
    • January 28, 2008
    • 7477

    #16
    Re: Frame Pull Date

    Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
    Steve -

    I have the original high-resolution image from GM Photographic, and in it you can see the "20-9-65" pull date scrawled on all the frames on the line, all the way back to the frame stack at the head end of the line; that's the day the photo was shot.
    Yup, I agree John. Thanks. Also, the top three or four frames in the stack will have the same date and also some other I.D. info that was added at the St Louis plant just prior to being pulled off the stack and set on the line.
    This job number and other misc info was added only to the top several frames every 20 minutes or so, by a worker that had a stack of broadcast sheets in his hand.

    The reason I know this is because I know the guy that has several good quality photos of this occuring that pretty much documents this fact. The reason I know, for certain, that the pictures were taken on that same day, in the St Louis assembly plant, is because I was the guy that pushed the button on the camera that took those pictures.
    Last edited by Michael H.; April 26, 2008, 03:58 PM.

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    • John H.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • November 30, 1997
      • 16513

      #17
      Re: Frame Pull Date

      Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
      John,
      I can see the frame dates on the assembly table and I believe you that the stack in the background also has the same date.

      You have the high resolution image from GM. Does IT have a date associated with it (stamped on the back or something that says the photo was taken on Sept 20 1965)????
      It's a digital image - GM Media Relations stopped providing paper images with the photo number and date on the back many years ago; everything I get from them as part of my magazine research is digital.

      What makes you think the photo wasn't taken on 9/20/65?

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      • Cecil L.
        Very Frequent User
        • May 31, 1980
        • 449

        #18
        Re: Frame Pull Date

        Can anyone explain why my frame had the 67 style stencil with 11-10GC date (body build 11-12-65) less than two months after that pic was taken?

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        • Stephen L.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • May 31, 1984
          • 3149

          #19
          Re: Frame Pull Date

          Just trying to get some clarification on the "pull date" scenario vs the later "stencil dated by the frame manufacturer".......

          I believe we both are wondering why this appears to be the only dated part that was "dated upon use" rather than "upon date of manufacture" (your earlier thread response to me)

          No one has responded with the reason it was "dated at use/pulled".

          Which brings up the next question... why did GM change to stenciling the date at the time of frame manufacture.... or did they decide to just include the date into the stencil rather than write it on each frame, by hand, at manufacture.

          Inquiring mind is my excuse.....

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          • John H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • November 30, 1997
            • 16513

            #20
            Re: Frame Pull Date

            Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
            Just trying to get some clarification on the "pull date" scenario vs the later "stencil dated by the frame manufacturer".......

            I believe we both are wondering why this appears to be the only dated part that was "dated upon use" rather than "upon date of manufacture" (your earlier thread response to me)

            No one has responded with the reason it was "dated at use/pulled".

            Which brings up the next question... why did GM change to stenciling the date at the time of frame manufacture.... or did they decide to just include the date into the stencil rather than write it on each frame, by hand, at manufacture.

            Inquiring mind is my excuse.....
            Steve -

            We'll probably never know. Someone must have thought it was important to put the "pull date" on the frame, and later on, at the end of '66, someone else apparently decided it wasn't, and they stopped doing it, and had A.O. Smith-Granite City include a date in their stencil.

            I never asked, as they weren't doing the "pull date" when I was there in '67-'68; issue never surfaced for me until I started restoring them in '71 or so.

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            • Philip C.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • November 30, 1984
              • 1117

              #21
              Re: Frame Pull Date

              Guys maybe its wasnt the "pull date" but the day the chassis was assembled. That 65 and Dave started a lot of trouble, they planted the restoration Bug in a lot of people. Phil 8063

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              • Todd H.
                Infrequent User
                • October 31, 1999
                • 28

                #22
                Re: Frame Pull Date

                Oct. '65 build car stencil. I never could make out what was written in red crayon over the stencilled information

                Last edited by Todd H.; April 30, 2008, 02:48 AM.

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                • Craig O.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • July 31, 1983
                  • 207

                  #23
                  Re: Frame Pull Date

                  Cecil cleaned photo best I could

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                  • Cecil L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • May 31, 1980
                    • 449

                    #24
                    Re: Frame Pull Date

                    Originally posted by Todd Harden (33193)
                    Oct. '65 build car stencil. I never could make out what was written in red crayon over the stencilled information

                    Todd,
                    That is the same date as mine....11-10-GC. Would you care to compare VIN's?

                    Could it be that the frame part number stencil and date procedure changed sometime between the 9-20-65 pic and 11-10-65 as shown on our two cars?

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                    • Stephen L.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • May 31, 1984
                      • 3149

                      #25
                      Re: Frame Pull Date

                      It would really throw a wrench in the works if someone steps forward with an original stenciled date on their frame BEFORE 9/20/65..........

                      Anybody out there have one????????

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                      • Todd H.
                        Infrequent User
                        • October 31, 1999
                        • 28

                        #26
                        Re: Frame Pull Date

                        Correction to my above post. My cars build date was Nov. 12, 1965 and the frame is stencilled 11-10-65.

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                        • Robert T.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • May 31, 1993
                          • 346

                          #27
                          Re: Frame Pull Date

                          I have a "pull date" of 9-14-65 on my frame. Also someone different must have done mine as it it written as 9/14/65, not 14-9-65 as the earlier posted picture would imply, even though mine was only a week earlier.

                          Bt

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                          • John H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • November 30, 1997
                            • 16513

                            #28
                            Re: Frame Pull Date

                            Originally posted by Robert Taylor (22650)
                            I have a "pull date" of 9-14-65 on my frame. Also someone different must have done mine as it it written as 9/14/65, not 14-9-65 as the earlier posted picture would imply, even though mine was only a week earlier.

                            Bt
                            There was no "standard format" - just depended on the operator doing the job that day; the guy doing the "20-9-65" in the photo must have liked the European format.

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