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  • James A.
    Frequent User
    • July 31, 2003
    • 36

    #46
    Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

    What was the consensus on Gary's balancer? Is this the proper balancer for a 290hp engine? Are the turning marks on the OD proper?

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    • Tom O.
      Expired
      • October 23, 2006
      • 28

      #47
      Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

      I still do not have a high hp balancer, but have a long time to look.

      FYI, I never received a response from Marilyn and Dave Heitzman about how correct is the balancer in the Paragon catalogue. I'll let you know if I do.

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      • Richard L.
        Frequent User
        • November 30, 1994
        • 43

        #48
        Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

        Check out ebay #130220057843, not sure if it is correct or not.

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        • Tom O.
          Expired
          • October 23, 2006
          • 28

          #49
          Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

          The balancer on eBay, I believe, is a later replacement. The original is two solid disks, the smaller diameter disk being next to the engine. The later ones with the three spokes don't look anything like the original. Look in the 1958-60 NCRS judging guide on page 74 for pictures of the low and high horsepower balancers.

          The eBay one is starting at $299 and I think Paragon sells them for ~$245.

          Thank you for trying.

          Tom

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          • Lou C.
            Very Frequent User
            • August 31, 1992
            • 134

            #50
            Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

            Originally posted by James Allison (40498)
            What was the consensus on Gary's balancer? Is this the proper balancer for a 290hp engine? Are the turning marks on the OD proper?
            Do we know what this balancer is for?

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            • Gary H.
              Infrequent User
              • September 30, 1990
              • 25

              #51
              Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

              Just to be perfectly open and clear to everyone on this forum, the one on the online auction is mine. It is the same one in the pics I posted earlier in this thread. As the pics show, it does not have the numerous holes in the outer band, the Paragon repro does. Even the JM states " Both balancers do not have numerous holes in the outer band as current replacements".

              These holes are very apparent installed whereas the spoke vs. solid is covered by the pulley.

              Are there any 58-61 Judges on the forum that would offer their opinion on point deductions, if any, for the holes in the outer band and for spoked vs. solid inner band?

              Thanks to all of you for your inputs. Gary

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              • Tom O.
                Expired
                • October 23, 2006
                • 28

                #52
                Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                Well, I just reviewed the 1958-62 Judging Sheets, Chassis Section. Number 25, Engine Cooling System, third item is: Crank balancer, pulley, timing cover & tab. Those four items are worth 5 Originality and 5 Condition points.

                So if the balancer was totally incorrect, would it only be a 1.67 point deduction?

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                • Tom O.
                  Expired
                  • October 23, 2006
                  • 28

                  #53
                  Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                  "Look at Paragon Reproductions V.32 2007 catalog, page 16. Their version is priced @ $245. With all the different definitions currently in the mix......this one comes closest to meeting the standard. Call Marilyn & Dave Heitzman (currently writing the updated 58-60 Judging Guide) marilynheitzman@msn.com
                  They can give you their definition and opinion on this balancer."


                  FYI, I just heard from Marilyn and she and Dave will send me their opinion about the Paragon balancer next week. I am STILL looking for one.

                  Also,does anyone know the answer to my points questions above?

                  Tom


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                  • Bill M.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • March 31, 1977
                    • 1386

                    #54
                    Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                    Here are photos of a '59 283/290 harmonic balancer. (I hope. First time posting photos.)

                    I reviewed the JG, and went into deep memory search. I believe I tried to pull off the original balancer with a puller on the outer ring (17 year old in 1964) and pulled the outer ring off. This is probably a replacement balancer; not the original.
                    Attached Files
                    Last edited by Bill M.; June 12, 2008, 08:53 PM. Reason: Faded Memory

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                    • Dave S.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1992
                      • 2918

                      #55
                      Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                      The Balancer posted above matches the balancer on my 61 315 Hp car. Like everyone I've been trying to determine if my balancer is correct. It's pretty obvious that this subject is a real moving target. My balancer is approximately 6 1/8" outside diameter.

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                      • Bill M.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • March 31, 1977
                        • 1386

                        #56
                        Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                        See photos above.
                        Hub measures 4.50 (6 in. digital caliper).
                        OD is 6-1/8 (ruler).

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                        • Loren L.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 30, 1976
                          • 4104

                          #57
                          Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                          First, I'm really surprised that this link is still alive; second, I'm REALLY impressed with the dating "yesterday at ____" - what is that supposed to communicate? Could we at least specify a YEAR?
                          Paragon, unless they have changed suppliers, was/is buying goat hill's fake.

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                          • Tom O.
                            Expired
                            • October 23, 2006
                            • 28

                            #58
                            Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                            I am still looking for the high hp harmonic balancer for a 270 hp, 283.

                            I posed this question back in May. Dpes anyone have the answer?

                            Tom Orashan (46433)Well, I just reviewed the 1958-62 Judging Sheets, Chassis Section. Number 25, Engine Cooling System, third item is: Crank balancer, pulley, timing cover & tab. Those four items are worth 5 Originality and 5 Condition points.

                            So if the balancer was totally incorrect, would it only be a 1.67 point deduction?May 7th, 2008 10:23 AM

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                            • Greg M.
                              Expired
                              • March 31, 1998
                              • 119

                              #59
                              Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                              I took the balancer off my 1960 290hp engine on Sunday. The rubber was completely bad, outer ring was loose. Will be sending it in today for a rebuild. When it gets back I can take a picture of it as I don't think it has ever been off the engine before, so I am pretty sure it is correct!

                              Greg
                              1960fivette
                              NCRS #30406
                              Last edited by Greg M.; October 28, 2008, 08:41 AM.

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                              • Tom O.
                                Expired
                                • October 23, 2006
                                • 28

                                #60
                                Re: Need high hp harmonic balancer

                                Thanks Greg, a picture would be great.

                                Does anyone have the answer to this:
                                I reviewed the 1958-62 Judging Sheets, Chassis Section. Number 25, Engine Cooling System, third item is: Crank balancer, pulley, timing cover & tab. Those four items are worth 5 Originality and 5 Condition points.

                                So if the balancer was totally incorrect, would it only be a 1.67 point deduction for originality?

                                Tom

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