1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

[Wayne M.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

Michael I bet the vehicles have a different radio or something that required an exception code change for the interior trim.

Now THIS is interesting .... Noland's Vol 2, pg 152; N03 option, ECL letter A = Coupe, standard wheels, black trim

letter B = Coupe, P48, black trim.

So Michael's example is one that was originally ordered with KO's.

[Duke W.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

It's clear to me on this Corvette Order Copy that N03 was a separate option that was not included with Z-06.

The revised Z-06 option consisted of HD brakes, HD suspension, and L84, M20, and G81. Since these three options were available separately they are listed as "INCL".

Duke

[Michael H.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

Michael I bet the vehicles have a different radio or something that required an exception code change for the interior trim.

That's what I thought too but both have similar options, including the U65 AM radio.
Both cars/sheets show 2Z06F and the additional equipment is listed the same way. (2M20B,2L84A,2G81G/2G81H) (one is 4.11, the other is 4.56)

[Wayne M.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

ALL,

used Irafan View to blow the JPEG up and it is defintiely a "2"

Rick -- I scanned sheet photocopy at 300 dpi. I think I can go to 4800 dpi; then crop to the characters under discussion and email to anyone that want's to do closer examination or use Irafan (I don't have it) to analyze.

Of course, the basic problem is the 1985-era photocopy.

[Michael H.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

Now THIS is interesting .... Noland's Vol 2, pg 152; N03 option, ECL letter A = Coupe, standard wheels, black trim

letter B = Coupe, P48, black trim.

So Michael's example is one that was originally ordered with KO's.

Yes, and delivered with KO's, but I ain'ta gunna get into a shootin match with anyone over it. I have history back to the plant delivery, and much more.

I didn't know the Z06 ECL showed KO's. Interesting!

[Wayne M.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

.... delivered with KO's, but I ain'ta gunna get into a shootin match with anyone over it.

Too late ... cat's outta the bag

In parts terms, the P48 car would have had the lead hammer added under the spring holding the jack and handle (in rear corner of passenger sidewall).

And the jacking instructions were different for Knock Offs. Again, see Noland's page 154 for N03 jacking instructions with steel wheels (sticker dated 12-19-62 -- hummm).

Then, for 1964 MY (Noland Vol 2, page 237) new sticker for KO-equipped tankers; different part # on sticker, but no date.

[Art A.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

"but the AIM release date was 12-20-62."

Wayne,
The release date that is shown on an AIM sheet is the date that an items change was released for PUBLICATION into the AIM.

I can't tell you exactly when the change in question took place, but I can tell you that the AIM release date has NOTHING to do with the actual releasing date of a part or an option into production. ONLY the BOM, Bill of Material or the actual Release Notice, or the NPC, Notice of Production Change could identify a production items date change.

If an items change was deemed a CRITICAL item it could very well have hit production way before the change was published in the AIM.....usually via an NPC.

Art

[Rick A.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

yep, have a couple of other examples of order sheets with the "B" and K/Os

[Philip C.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

yep, have a couple of other examples of order sheets with the "B" and K/Os

DID anyone hear that noise?????? SOMETHING just hit the FAN Phil 8063

[John D.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

yep, have a couple of other examples of order sheets with the "B" and K/Os

Rick, Many of you have heard my 63 KO story many times in the past. I still remember the silver 63 FI coupe with KO's being delivered to a Chevy dealer in Pittsburgh, PA. But it was going to a special customer by the name of Grady Davis. The car is well know in this area and has been a topic of discussion ever since I joined NCRS almost 30 years ago. But as you can see the customer was not your average Joe. As Clem Zahrobsky said not too long ago GM would make or build anything that Grady asked for.

Now to get back to Roy's original question which was not KO's. I know of a real deal Z06 small tank that has an engine build date of Jan23 or Jan 25. John D.

[John D.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

I agree completely - currently at work, but will look at some other sheets I have at home tonite and see if there is a trend

I see you have a rough job at work. On the forums all day. Old JD needs a job like that Ricky.(he has it) I gonna tell ur boss. Course maybe u are the boss??? JD

[Dick W.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

DID anyone hear that noise?????? SOMETHING just hit the FAN Phil 8063

SPLAT

[John D.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

What is the general consensus of when the small tank Z06 cars became available?

Hi Roy, I hope the following will be helpfull: a Mr. Bob Jones has maintained a "Z06 Survey" for the past 25+ years. At the present time the survey consists of 75+ "Small Tank" and 35+ "Big Tank" Z06's. The survey is arranged by "VIN#'s" and the EARLIEST "Small Tank" is VIN# 6753 with a build date of "E2"(2nd week of Jan, 1963).

[Rick A.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

John,

just looked at the most recent Bob Jones survey, and agree with the first small tank VIN; but there is actually 71 big tank VINs listed! two of them are for pilot line cars; and then there are 42 small tank VINs listed - so, with this info, it appears that current count of 63 big tanks is probably in error!?

[John D.]

Re: 1963 Z06 big tank vs small tank when

John,

just looked at the most recent Bob Jones survey, and agree with the first small tank VIN; but there is actually 71 big tank VINs listed! two of them are for pilot line cars; and then there are 42 small tank VINs listed - so, with this info, it appears that current count of 63 big tanks is probably in error!?

Ricky, Are you in sin u ating that sum of the big tanks are not the real deal!!!! Hard to believe that would happen in this day and age. RJ