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  • James W.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • November 30, 1990
    • 2638

    1965 Outer Splash Shield Seal Installation Revisited

    I am getting ready to install the correct outer splash shield seals to my '65 coupe. I have verified from previous threads and discussions with other NCRS members that the staples were/are installed from the top side of the shield. My original right side shield appears to have had the staples installed from the top side of the shield based on the sharp metal material around the stamped holes on the bottom side. This is a C60 equipped car and has the original and correct block off plate spot welded to fill in the cut out since the battery is located on the driver's side, see attached picture. The my '65 has a body built by A.O. Smith on June 24.

    At a 2021 NCRS Regional meet that I was a judging at, there was an unrestored 1965 coupe presented for flight judging by the original owner that had the staples installed from the bottom side up and the seal material with the three faint ribs present on the bottom side of the shield, see attached picture. The body was built on April 28 by A.O. Smith. A second picture of a '65 Bowtie coupe photographed at the 2008 Nat'l Convention with a St. Louis body built on May 14 also shows the same staple and seal installation orientation, see attached picture.

    My question is this. Since the current 1965 TIMJG does not specify what the installed orientation of the staples and the three ribs on the seal material, what is the consensus as to the correct orientation that they should appear? Can I be reasonably sure that if I install the seals with the staples installed from the top side and the seal material ribs oriented on the bottom side of the splash shield that this would be judged as correct? I have a picture of the staple and seal orientation on two unrestored cars showing the installed orientation, so maybe it is a no brainer, but I only want to do this job once, and hopefully get it correct the first time.

    I wouldn't be asking this question, but my father replaced the original seals back in the mid 1980's so I don't have anything to go by except that the shields are the originals.

    Thanks,

    James
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  • Alan D.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • December 31, 2004
    • 2024

    #2
    Well Jim, I have the staples put in from bottom and the ribs on the top side on my 64 (original still)
    Bet if we were able to do a good survey it would turn out as a mix on the ribs at least.

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    • Joseph S.
      National Judging Chairman
      • February 28, 1985
      • 817

      #3
      James, First, the shields will not be different from St Louis built to AO Smith built since the shields could not be on the body at body drop. They would not clear the body mount brackets welded to the frame. Now, as far as the staple and stripe orientation goes, we have seen every different configuration on unrestored cars. There was no set way this was stapled. The part & the rubber can be installed and stapled in every direction.

      I hope this helps, Joe

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      • James W.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • November 30, 1990
        • 2638

        #4
        It didn't occur to me when writing my post that the shields were not installed during the body assembly, but after the body drop, thanks Joe. Alan, I'm sure there would be a lot of variations on both staple and seal/rib installation direction if a survey was done. I am going to install the staples from the top as they were originally installed in my original shields and install the seals with the ribs on the bottom side.

        From what I've read in different posts, the shields were bare metal, the seal material was installed and then painted semi-gloss black?

        Thank you Alan and Joe for your input.

        James

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        • Mark F.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • July 31, 1998
          • 1457

          #5
          Originally posted by James West (18379)
          It didn't occur to me when writing my post that the shields were not installed during the body assembly, but after the body drop, thanks Joe. Alan, I'm sure there would be a lot of variations on both staple and seal/rib installation direction if a survey was done. I am going to install the staples from the top as they were originally installed in my original shields and install the seals with the ribs on the bottom side. From what I've read in different posts, the shields were bare metal, the seal material was installed and then painted semi-gloss black? Thank you Alan and Joe for your input. James
          James,

          Per John Hinckley's C2 Assembly Process Presentation (available in the Database of Restoration Documents [DoRD] Sticky Post), here's what he says about splash shields:

          Final Line – ~station 10
          Staple seals to outer splash shields (except N14 side exhaust cars) and install inner and outer front splash shields.

          I don’t see in his discussion that they were painted after installation; but I do see them referred to as semi-gloss black in the ’67 TIMJG
          thx,
          Mark

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