Announcement of Candidate For NCRS President

[Lawrence C.]

As NCRS Secretary and Pursuant to NCRS Bylaws Article IV, Section 4.7.1 I am notifying the NCRS Membership that Mike Ingham has properly notified me that he is a candidate for NCRS President in the March 21, 2024 Board election. The following is his notification:






This notification will also be posted in the next NCRS publications and in an email sent to NCRS Membership.

Respectfully submitted,
Larry Colvin
NCRS Secretary

[Mark F.]

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NCRS Secretary

Lawrence,

Please ask Mike to elucidate what organization is "feeding off NCRS knowledge and training"...I'm not as politically connected as others may be and I don't know what that inference refers to.

Also, whomever or whatever the "other organization" is, what plan is contemplated to combat it ? (although I don't know who it is and what threat it presents)

[Michael J.]

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I think I know.....

[Michael I.]

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Dear Mark,

Thank you for your inquiry.


Let me clarify my position with regard to It is my intention to promote and enhance the NCRS's leadership in the Corvette hobby. The NCRS authors and publishes all of the judging guides, conducts judging schools and even trains most of the judges that choose to transfer their judging skills and training to other Corvette organizations. I will continue to support the NCRS's efforts to maintain our preeminence in the Corvette collector hobby. This will include enhanced marketing of the NCRS brand to non-NCRS members in order to attract new members and to help increase the value of our prestigious awards.

Mike

[Tom R.]

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i can't agree more...these organizations do not have Corvette judge development programs, yet harvest NCRS development results. I would probably word it slightly different:

Address competitive pressure from non-NCRS Corvette organizations feeding off NCRS knowledge and training development efforts. How that would be accomplished should be the follow up question.

[Michael I.]

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Thanks Tom,

Don't have all of the answers yet but I hope you would agree that we could do a better job of marketing the value of our awards, particularly our Mark of Excellence awards, and what all they entail.

Mike

[Keith M.]

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NCRS is IMO by far the best vette-centric organization out there..though corvetteforum blows it away for communication. However....if the top priority above all others by orders of magnitude is not a wholesale revamp of the NCRS web site and forums....wrong guy for the job. I can't even communicate with fellow members in my area...short of Fakebook which I do not do and never will. I am in early 60s but the average member age is weighing heavily on this organization. NCRS is great....but a miniscule fraction of what it could be absent leadership with vision. Stop with the carnival prizes for sake of prizes and get back to Restoration for restoration sake. Passion for the car. Plus ca la change, plus ca la meme chose. BTW...is this thread appropriate for a TECHNICAL forum? Get my point? Peace.

[Terry M.]

Re: Announcement of Candidate For NCRS President

As NCRS Secretary and Pursuant to NCRS Bylaws Article IV, Section 4.7.1 I am notifying the NCRS Membership that Mike Ingham has properly notified me that he is a candidate for NCRS President in the March 21, 2024 Board election. The following is his notification:






This notification will also be posted in the next NCRS publications and in an email sent to NCRS Membership.

Respectfully submitted,
Larry Colvin
NCRS Secretary

Mike

I am pleased to see, for the first time in my membership time, that a deceleration of candidacy has been made public. This is certainly a step forward for the organization.

Your position would be clearer if you named the organization(s) feeding off or NCRS Training. I can think of three organizations that also judge Corvettes. Most, if not all, judge Corvettes as new as "right off the showroom floor." Given that difference one might argue that their judges have around 15-years experience if and when they come to NCRS to judge. Given that situation one might believe that they are training people to judge for NCRS. Of course that ignores, as you have, that the judging systems each organization uses is different, and potential judges have to be trained more in the systems used than in technical knowledge.

If NCRS business is to become transparent you will have to stick to items that are truly required to be in Executive Session and not conduct routine business in secret. Transparency is easy to talk about, but given NCRS history, is a lot harder to accomplish. One might eliminate the ex-presidents meetings as a step toward transparency, or at least take minutes and publish them. as well.

I wish you good luck in fulfilling your campaign promises.

[Don H.]

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NCRS is IMO by far the best vette-centric organization out there. Peace.

Good to hear we are the best Corvette club in the classic car hobby, despite our apparent short-comings. Mike gets my vote.

[Michael J.]

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Agreed, but having been involved in other car-centric organizations, like Mustang Club of America, Shelby American Auto Club, NCCC, Classic Chevrolet Club, AACA, etc. I would say NCRS is far and away the best car-centric organization in the country.

[Chuck B.]

[Tom R.]

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Why can’t we all get along ?

Re Chuck's soap box...

I suspect the resentments were established when those organizations were created in what...the 1970s? And, more than likely most of those characters aren't even around anymore...well, around but perhaps not active?

[Keith M.]

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Good to hear we are the best Corvette club in the classic car hobby, despite our apparent short-comings. Mike gets my vote.

The issue is that NCRS could be SO SO much better. There is festering frustration amongst many members and a sense that the organization prioritizes the leadership over the broader membership. The website/forum is quite frankly an embarrassment in this day and age for an organization of this caliber. This has come up numerous times by a number of folks and appears to have gone nowhere. Revamping it, if done well, would revitalize the organization and facilitate a much stronger sense of community. No more fragmented Facebook for chapter communications. Moving to a new state? Pop in to the subforum of the new destination to start to get to know them. Don't believe me on any of this? Survey the membership on these and other points. Only been here a few years and have not seen any survey. Surveying the membership is the BEST way for an organization to show it exists for its membership. But that is all for naught if the survey results are not acted on. NCRS needs leadership with vision and strategic thinking.

[Don H.]

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Love your idea of a survey of all membership and propose two questions. Do you want an all new, state of the art website/forum? And, are you willing to pay two to three times current annual membership fee to pay for creation and maintenance of such website/forum? I bet question one would be a winner.. And question two a loser.

[Keith M.]

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Love your idea of a survey of all membership and propose two questions. Do you want an all new, state of the art website/forum? And, are you willing to pay two to three times current annual membership fee to pay for creation and maintenance of such website/forum? I bet question one would be a winner.. And question two a loser.

Well you probably not the guy to lead the survey committee then.

1) has the analysis been done? if so please share.
2) much better to let the membership speak for itself rather than speculate and make decisions without input.
3) one can either focus on important outcomes and work through constraints to get there, or wallow in the challenges and stagnate.
4) I propose a third question. Would the membership reallocate funds from activities and things that do not benefit all to create something that will benefit every member around the world every day now and forever? That would be a "winner"
5) What is the plan for the website and forum? Keep it in current dysfunctional state forever?
6) there are countless forums on the internet including corvetteforum that run very successfully without participants paying a penny. you telling me NCRS with its dues paying members can't figure out a solution?

Surveys are usually avoided by organizations that fear the results. Is that what NCRS is? I hope not.