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  • Patrick H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1989
    • 11642

    #16
    Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

    It sure doesn't look modified. I will try and get a picture of it, and may have to use the fiber optic camera to get the best one.
    Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
    71 "deer modified" coupe
    72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
    2008 coupe
    Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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    • Stephen L.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • May 31, 1984
      • 3156

      #17
      Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

      Patrick,
      Did this system work correctly BEFORE you took out the motor for repair, or was the entire system removed, including the transmission shafts?

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      • Edward J.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • September 15, 2008
        • 6940

        #18
        Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

        Patrick, take the drivers wiper off, and make sure that the sweep and parking off the pass. Side wiper is perfect, if all is good install the drivers wiper and check that it is installed correctly, drivers side I believe should be under the pass blade, My 63 is in garage and it’s getting late to go out and look at mine.
        New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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        • Richard M.
          Super Moderator
          • August 31, 1988
          • 11323

          #19
          Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

          Patrick, Tough one for sure.

          Is it possible that the transmission/rod assemblies were reversed when installed? I.E. rotated 180*?

          If the rods are slightly different in length with slightly different bend angle where they attach to the transmissions, might this be a factor?

          Rich

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11642

            #20
            Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

            Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
            Patrick,
            Did this system work correctly BEFORE you took out the motor for repair, or was the entire system removed, including the transmission shafts?
            Never tried it. The motor and thick layers of grease and silver paint on it. I couldn't stand it, so sent it to Steve Hackel for restoration.
            However, based on the scratches all over the drivers' A-pillar stainless I don't think this is a new issue.
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Stephen L.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • May 31, 1984
              • 3156

              #21
              Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

              Patrick, The wiper "transmissions" are left and right. There is a good possibilty that you have them reversed OR someone installed 2 of the same part #. Possibly they are marked L & R. Sounds like a cluster removal is upcoming for accessibilty.......
              Steve

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              • Stephen L.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • May 31, 1984
                • 3156

                #22
                Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                The left transmission has a "D" stamp on it in my car.
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                • Jim D.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 1985
                  • 2883

                  #23
                  Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                  Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                  The left transmission has a "D" stamp on it in my car.
                  And the right side is stamped "E"

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                  • Joseph S.
                    National Judging Chairman
                    • March 1, 1985
                    • 862

                    #24
                    Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                    If the arm was not in the proper position, The wiper would move in the same direction as the passenger side, not opposite.

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11642

                      #25
                      Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                      They have the correct stamp on each side. D left, E right.

                      Since these are not reproduced, does anyone have a left side pivot/transmission and linkage I could at some point swap in and see if it fixes the issue?
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Stephen L.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • May 31, 1984
                        • 3156

                        #26
                        Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                        About all that is left is the length of the black tubes and the bend in the end. Is one longer than the other from pivot point to pivot point?

                        Possibly some one could measure a set if they have their car apart. These are NOT called out in the AIM so they must be part of the assembly transmission....... maybe they should be different lengths......

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11642

                          #27
                          Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                          Originally posted by Stephen Lavigne (7553)
                          About all that is left is the length of the black tubes and the bend in the end. Is one longer than the other from pivot point to pivot point?

                          Possibly some one could measure a set if they have their car apart. These are NOT called out in the AIM so they must be part of the assembly transmission....... maybe they should be different lengths......
                          Definitely possible that the driver's side one could be bent or ? After all, it's the side I can't see that well.
                          If anyone can get measurements of the linkage and the arm, that would be appreciated.
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Joseph S.
                            National Judging Chairman
                            • March 1, 1985
                            • 862

                            #28
                            Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                            Patrick, The length of the Black arms are irrelevant. The stroke of the wiper motor is consistent since both black arms attach together. If both linkage arms at the posts are the same length then the wipers will move the same 90 degrees. If someone modified the drivers linkage arm (Bent or Shortened) then that will be the issue.

                            That's why I said earlier, I see a cluster removal coming up in your future. FYI. I have removed the drivers trans in the past without removing the cluster. But I was much younger then!

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                            • John D.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • December 1, 1979
                              • 5507

                              #29
                              Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                              BillClupper and Howard Baker pointed out to me at a Pittsburgh Chapter show that a '63 being judged had passenger car wiper arms on it. That's why the blade assembly was going too far and rubbing the stainless trim .
                              On another note when my 63 was restored for the second time someone had put the arms on in the incorrect order. This caused the retainer clip on the motor to fly off. There must be a bout three of those retainers behind the dash waiting some day to fry the wiring.

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                              • Stephen L.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • May 31, 1984
                                • 3156

                                #30
                                Re: What is wrong with this 1963 wiper movement?

                                Patrick,
                                I looked closely at the photo I posted earlier. (below) The black rod connecting the left wiper has a "32" stamped on the end adjacent to the wiper motor. The right black rod has "33" stamped on the end adjacent to the wiper motor. When the wiper motor is "parked" the arm on the wiper motor is close to horizontal and pointing to the right side.
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