'67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

[Daniel B.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

Here is the stamp under natural lighting. Prior post was under very bright LED work light.

Engine Stamp for H22 Body and March 31 Final Assy NATURAL LIGHT.jpg

[Robert G.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

A trim tag with a body number of S6815 would normally be found between VINs 14465 and 14513 based on the data I've been collecting. I may have some engine pad pics I can compare with what has been posted.

The sequence of affixing trim and vin tags has been posted on this forum by John H and there may be an article he wrote for a magazine but I can't spend the time searching for it.
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[Mark F.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

...The sequence of affixing trim and vin tags has been posted on this forum by John H and there may be an article he wrote for a magazine but I can't spend the time searching for it. .

According to John Hinckley's Assembly Process articles and presentations (available in Rich Mozetta's Restoration Database "Sticky Post"), the VIN and Trim Plates were attached at the 1st station on the Hard Trim Line (HTL), which was the 1st station AFTER the St. Louis Paint Shop. At that station, he said, AOS bodies also entered the HTL at this point interspersed with StL bodies.

'67 Tank Sheets (order copy) have hand-written, circled numbers on them that some of us believe are "somewhat" correlated with the assembly sequence and VIN from the HTL thru final production and roll-off at the end of the line. Body job numbers written in chalk or crayon on various body panels have also been proposed as what those circled numbers represent. Nothing was an exact science assembling cars back then, so variations on all "thought-to-be-true" concepts vary.

Just out of curiosity, do you have photos of the tank sheet and VIN Plate for your car?
Have you seen any of the chalk or crayon numbers on any of your body panels? If so, what are they?

[Keith B.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

I would be looking behind the kick panels and inner quarter trim panels for evidence of exterior and interior color overspray. that tag looks very suspicious

[Michael H.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

Dan,

Yes I did come down with Covid but very mild, runny nose a slight cough. Please post a picture of your POP.

Mike

[Daniel B.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

According to John Hinckley's Assembly Process articles and presentations (available in Rich Mozetta's Restoration Database "Sticky Post"), the VIN and Trim Plates were attached at the 1st station on the Hard Trim Line (HTL), which was the 1st station AFTER the St. Louis Paint Shop. At that station, he said, AOS bodies also entered the HTL at this point interspersed with StL bodies.

'67 Tank Sheets (order copy) have hand-written, circled numbers on them that some of us believe are "somewhat" correlated with the assembly sequence and VIN from the HTL thru final production and roll-off at the end of the line. Body job numbers written in chalk or crayon on various body panels have also been proposed as what those circled numbers represent. Nothing was an exact science assembling cars back then, so variations on all "thought-to-be-true" concepts vary.

Just out of curiosity, do you have photos of the tank sheet and VIN Plate for your car?
Have you seen any of the chalk or crayon numbers on any of your body panels? If so, what are they?

I appreciate the comments from you and others Mark. I don't have the tank sheet and have not seen any chalk or crayon numbers, but I have not removed door panels or taken out any of the interior. It went through a body off restoration 15-20 years ago long before I owned the car. I welcome continuing comments that might explain this. The following seem to be among the possibilities so far:
a) Trim Tag is not original to the car.
b) Body had problems and had to be held for repairs before continuing assembly (however, if Trim and VIN tags are created and attached at the same station per the John H article you referred to it would seem the trim tag date would reflect the post repair date and still have the typical set-back from the final assembly date)
c) Engine needed to be replaced after Trim and VIN attached, however, does not seem plausible if tags are created and attached at the same station. If this were the case it would seem the VIN would be earlier in the sequence and still have the typical offset from the body date.
d) Other??

[Mark F.]

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I appreciate the comments from you and others Mark. I don't have the tank sheet and have not seen any chalk or crayon numbers, but I have not removed door panels or taken out any of the interior. It went through a body off restoration 15-20 years ago long before I owned the car...hmm, too bad that your body off restoration 20 years ago didn't yield a tank sticker or other photographic documentation. I welcome continuing comments that might explain this. The following seem to be among the possibilities so far:
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b) Body had problems and had to be held for repairs before continuing assembly (however, if Trim and VIN tags are created and attached at the same station per the John H article you referred to it would seem the trim tag date would reflect the post repair date and still have the typical set-back from the final assembly date)...Definitely not as far as I would think. The trim plate once attached would not have been removed at the factory - even if repairs had to be made later on down the line (my opinion based on some other automotive experience I have). According to the Trim Plate the Body was completed H22 even if it had problems later on...what happened to it after it left that station is the quandary in this mix...
c) ........d) Other??

See Comments above on your questions - all my opinions BTW...others will chime in...

[Daniel B.]

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Dan,

Please post a picture of your POP.

Mike

Here is the PoP if it might help in resolving the disparities (or add to them). Comments continue to be appreciated.

PoP IMG_1016.jpg

[Keith B.]

[Robert G.]

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Here is the PoP if it might help in resolving the disparities (or add to them). Comments continue to be appreciated.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]112532[/ATTACH]

I don't see a problem with this, it confirms paint, engine pad, and interior. However, I was unable to find an Upton Ave in Chicago. How about the transmission and diff stampings. Do they match what's on the POP? Does your POP booklet have the dealer name and address in it?

[Roy S.]

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Here is the PoP if it might help in resolving the disparities (or add to them). Comments continue to be appreciated.

[ATTACH=CONFIG]112532[/ATTACH]

This P-O-P appears to not be GM issued. A higher resolution picture might prove otherwise but it looks to be reproduction.

[Jack M.]

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Keith: Kindly explain how evidence of a color change, translates into the date being miscalculated?
There is absolutely no correlation between those two items... just simple 'guesses'.
We are offering plausible ideas on how the date spread transpired... at the request of the OP.
NOBODY should be degraded for doing so... so I'll DELETE another post, and refrain from more.

[Roy S.]

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It also appears NCRS rejected the Corvette Order Copy as not factory issued for this vehicle in May of 2014.

[Daniel B.]

Re: '67 With 9 Days Between Body Build and Final Assy

Thanks for the many comments. Many are very insightful. All are appreciated. Special thanks to Roy for his assessment and comments. I have enough to draw conclusions and move on with continuing to enjoy the car.