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  • Todd L.
    Very Frequent User
    • November 25, 2020
    • 285

    63 frame stencil for early car

    Hey guys,

    I know this subject has been posted several times, but I am still not clear on the correct location of the frame assembly stencil on a December 4th, 1962 frame.

    The 7th edition judging manual states "Frame numbers have also been observed on original 1963 frames on the driver's side under the door opening"

    The Quanta stencil kit instructions state "Many 1963 owners report the stencil on the driver's side" and "The early to mid production 1963 frame stencil is generally applied upside down on the driver side and is believe to have been applied with a roller"

    I want to make sure I do this correctly for judging and don't lose points for it being in the wrong location. Can anyone clarify what location would be correct for the December date on my frame?

    Thanks so much!
    Todd
  • Joseph S.
    National Judging Chairman
    • March 1, 1985
    • 866

    #2
    Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

    Todd, I think we see most of these on the passenger side. That is the safe place. Unless you have proof that your original stencil was on the Driver's side I would avoid that.

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    • Todd L.
      Very Frequent User
      • November 25, 2020
      • 285

      #3
      Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

      Thanks Joe, I can't prove or disprove that is was on the driver's side, so I will put it on the passenger side to be safe.

      Would you happen to know what date they started putting the frame "pull date" on as well? The JM states "Beginning in mid to late 1963"...

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      • Joe R.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1976
        • 4550

        #4
        Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

        All the original 63's that i have seen before they were restored had the numbers upside down on the DRIVERS side rail toward the rear and also a dated number about mid rail on the DRIVERS side. Have pictures of my unrestored 63 to prove my point. Pictures are from a 10,XXX 63.

        JR

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        • Todd L.
          Very Frequent User
          • November 25, 2020
          • 285

          #5
          Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

          Joe,

          The JM is referring to pull dates beginning "Mid to late 1963", my car is December 4th 1962, so that is what my question is referring to.

          Todd

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1976
            • 4550

            #6
            Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

            Originally posted by Todd Lawson (67502)
            Joe,

            The JM is referring to pull dates beginning "Mid to late 1963", my car is December 4th 1962, so that is what my question is referring to.

            Todd
            Todd, yes I understand your question but I just wanted to establish the fact that 63 Corvettes had the information you were looking for on the DRIVERS side and keep you from putting it on the Passenger side listening to people that had only seen wrongly restored 63's.

            If anyone can post pictures of unrestored 63's with numbers on the passenger side I apologize and will shut up!

            JR

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            • Gary B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • February 1, 1997
              • 7018

              #7
              Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

              Todd,





              Gary

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              • Joe R.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • July 31, 1976
                • 4550

                #8
                Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                Just consulted what I believe to be the most knowledgeable person on 63 frame stencil placement and he has documented evidence of stencils being on both sides of the frame so I'll eat my words!

                JR

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                • Joseph S.
                  National Judging Chairman
                  • March 1, 1985
                  • 866

                  #9
                  Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                  Joe, No need to eat your words. We all know that so many variables exist for 63 cars.

                  I will add this, most of the very early 63's I have seen that still had a trace of frame numbers had them forward on the drivers side ahead of the bend in the frame.

                  The majority of what we see on most of the Bowtie cars is a location on the passenger side. That's why I made the comment that if he does not have any proof then passenger side will work for sure.

                  As always, just my 2 cents, what ever that is worth today!!

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                  • Todd L.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • November 25, 2020
                    • 285

                    #10
                    Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                    Thanks to everyone for the extreme detail here, I enjoy learning about the history of this car. It sounds like I could put it on either side and be ok per the judging manual?

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 7018

                      #11

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                      • Todd L.
                        Very Frequent User
                        • November 25, 2020
                        • 285

                        #12
                        Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                        Gary,

                        When you say just ahead of the bend, are you referring to the bend in the frame at the firewall, or where it bends up to go over the rearend?

                        Todd

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                        • Gary B.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • February 1, 1997
                          • 7018

                          #13

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                          • Todd L.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • November 25, 2020
                            • 285

                            #14
                            Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                            Ok, thanks!

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                            • Todd L.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 25, 2020
                              • 285

                              #15
                              Re: 63 frame stencil for early car

                              Hey guys, I want to revisit this to get a more clear direction. I have talked with a couple owners of unrestored early cars, and both state their stencil is in the bend of the frame between the firewall and steering box. One of the cars was built 96 cars after mine on the line. The JM and Quanta both state the stencil have been observed "on the drivers side under the door opening".

                              I have a picture of one in the bend of the frame, but would that hold up in judging, since the JM doesn't reference that? How can I prove this is where it should be on my car?

                              Thanks so much,
                              Todd

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