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  • Michael G.
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    • November 12, 2008
    • 2157

    #46
    Mike




    1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
    1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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    • Mark F.
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      • July 31, 1998
      • 1524

      #47
      Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

      Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
      ...I have two questions: I assume my manifold is original, but what is the proper manifold part number for the 390 horse engine?... Thanks,
      MG,

      I'm thinkin' a 1966 L36 390 cast iron intake manifold casting number (not part number) is 3866948
      thx,
      Mark

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      • Michael G.
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        • November 12, 2008
        • 2157

        #48
        Mike




        1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
        1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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        • Patrick B.
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          • August 31, 1985
          • 1995

          #49
          Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

          The weak parts on a 1966 427 are the main cap bolts with female thread standoffs for the windage tray and the valve springs (single spring with damper).

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          • Michael G.
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            • November 12, 2008
            • 2157

            #50
            Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

            Patrick,

            My friend tells me that the springs have been changed, so that’s good, I think.

            Sorry, I’m not comprehending the design of the cap bolts. Are they bolts with a tapped hole in the top of the head or bolts with a male threaded stud protruding from the top of the head?

            Thanks,
            Last edited by Michael G.; November 17, 2021, 09:12 PM.
            Mike




            1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
            1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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            • Patrick B.
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              • August 31, 1985
              • 1995

              #51

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              • Michael G.
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                • November 12, 2008
                • 2157

                #52
                Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                Interesting, sounds like the depth of depression in the bolt head was excessive. Can you tell me whether the fracture was across only the bolt shank or through the tapped hole in the head?
                Mike




                1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                • Patrick B.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • August 31, 1985
                  • 1995

                  #53
                  Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                  Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
                  Interesting, sounds like the depth of depression in the bolt head was excessive. Can you tell me whether the fracture was across only the bolt shank or through the tapped hole in the head?
                  The breaks had nothing to do with the standoff itself or the threaded hole. The bolts broke at the threads going into the block. It seemed like the heat treatment was wrong and the bolts were brittle. The change in design was to a part of the bolt that was not the failure point. It's just that the only main cap bolts I have ever seen break were those particular windage tray standoff bolts. The regular main cap bolts on those same engines torqued up properly and caused no problems. On one engine three of the standoff bolts snapped one after another during the torqueing of the main cap bolts.

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                  • Larry E.
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                    • December 1, 1989
                    • 1677

                    #54
                    Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                    Patrick>Was the setup on the windage tray bolts identical on both the L36 & L72? Thanks>Larry
                    Larry

                    LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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                    • Michael G.
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                      • November 12, 2008
                      • 2157

                      #55
                      Mike




                      1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                      1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                      • Patrick B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1985
                        • 1995

                        #56
                        Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                        Originally posted by Larry Evoskis (16324)
                        Patrick>Was the setup on the windage tray bolts identical on both the L36 & L72? Thanks>Larry
                        I think so. The engines I had experience with were 4 bolts, but the stand-off bolts were inner main cap bolts so they could be used on 2 bolt blocks as well.

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                        • Michael J.
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                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7121

                          #57
                          Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                          Now that you have a beautiful '66 427, you need to watch the best movie starring a '66 427 ever made. It has an all star cast, was shot entirely in New Mexico, mostly within 50 miles of my place, and the Corvette featured in it was a local NCRS member's car........https://www.imcdb.org/v641924.html

                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • Larry E.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 1677

                            #58
                            Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                            Mike>You will also have to listen to the song>David Ball "Riding with Private Malone" is about a 1966 Corvette. Larry
                            Larry

                            LT1 in a 1LE -- One of 134

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                            • Michael G.
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                              • November 12, 2008
                              • 2157

                              #59
                              Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                              As I prepare to drive this car in the Spring, it bothers me a bit that it really hasn’t been driven much for 50 years. While I have no intent of racing it, its not beyond the scope of possibility that I might wind it out once (or twice, maybe). It’s only got 53,000 original miles on it, so its probably not breaking apart at any point soon, but I’d hate to lunch an original 427 engine. I’m almost thinking that I should put it on a stand and get a new long block, but it runs so well and makes such nice noise, that that would be a shame… It’s a good dilemma, sure, but I have mixed feelings, HELP!

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                              Last edited by Michael G.; December 19, 2021, 06:54 AM.
                              Mike




                              1965 Black Ext / Silver Int. Coupe, L84 Duntov, French Lick, 2023 - Triple Diamond
                              1965 Red Ext / White & Red Int. Conv. - 327/250 AC Regional Top Flight.

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                              • Leif A.
                                Extremely Frequent Poster
                                • August 31, 1997
                                • 3627

                                #60
                                Re: 'New' '66 joins fleet...

                                Originally posted by Michael Garver (49693)
                                As I prepare to drive this car in the Spring, it bothers me a bit that it really hasn’t been driven much for 50 years. While I have no intent of racing it, its not beyond the scope of possibility that I might wind it out once (or twice, maybe). It’s only got 53,000 original miles on it, so its probably not breaking apart at any point soon, but I’d hate to lunch an original 427 engine. I’m almost thinking that I should put it on a stand and get a new long block, but it runs so well and makes such nice noise, that that would be a shame… It’s a good dilemma, sure, but I have mixed feelings, HELP!

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                                Michael,
                                The only way you'd "lunch" that engine would be lack of maintenance or abuse i.e. missed shift at high RPM. I seriously doubt you're going to be doing anything that would destroy that engine. Drive on and enjoy what you bought.
                                Leif
                                '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                                Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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