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  • Keith G.
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    • October 31, 2006
    • 316

    Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

    Had a couple of WRA????
  • Gary B.
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    • February 1, 1997
    • 7018

    #2
    Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

    Wear, rust, aging. Used as an explanation for a condition deduction.

    Gary

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    • Harry S.
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      • July 31, 2002
      • 5295

      #3
      Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

      The judge should be reprimanded for not explaining what that means...


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      • John F.
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        • March 23, 2008
        • 2408

        #4
        Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

        Keith, did you have fun and was it informative? Those are the important things.

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        • Keith G.
          Expired
          • October 31, 2006
          • 316

          #5
          Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

          You bet, been through that 12 times and learned something every time, but never seen WRA before, also learned the wing window cranks have to point a certain direction, as well as the clove box light shield.

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          • Gary H.
            Very Frequent User
            • June 30, 1980
            • 155

            #6
            Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

            Not that it means much but I've been judging for quite awhile and I've never heard of or used WRA.
            The judge needs more training so the owner can receive useful information not an alphabet.
            BTW, the team leader should have caught it when he reviewed the sheets...

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            • Gary S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • July 31, 1992
              • 1632

              #7
              Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

              Isn't it incumbent on the owner to also ask what that means during the debriefing with the team?

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              • Harry S.
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                • July 31, 2002
                • 5295

                #8
                Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                Originally posted by Gary Schisler (21316)
                Isn't it incumbent on the owner to also ask what that means during the debriefing with the team?
                Yes, the owner should ask. The guidelines I give my judges is, when the owner gets home with his judging sheets, everything should be clear and legible. All abbreviations should be defined.


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                • Keith B.
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                  • September 15, 2014
                  • 1582

                  #9
                  Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                  when I judge with other more experienced judges who use abbreviations they always wrote on the bottom what each one meant and always made it clear to the owner why we used them.

                  I am curious about the vent window cranks?

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                  • Terry M.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • September 30, 1980
                    • 15599

                    #10
                    Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                    I recall several events back when I was National Team Leader where there was a stamp applied to the score sheets to "decode" frequently used abbreviations. This may still be in use, but I no longer have the chance to review score sheets, so I don't know how common this is now days. Based on the comments above, it may not be used any longer. Perhaps it is time to bring it back and make it more widespread than it was. Some I can remember:

                    WRA = Wear Rust and ageing
                    S/B = should be
                    TFP = Typical Factory Production
                    POR = Paint over rust

                    There are others, but that is all I can remember this early morning.

                    That stamp was applied to each group of score sheets. I believe it was applied either by the Team Leader or the Tab Team. These abbreviations are driven by the lack of space on the score sheets for comments. Some lines have a lot of space, but many (most?) don't have the room for detailed comments. The review of the score sheets by the judges with the owner should address these abbreviations, if used, but the chances of the owner remember these weeks later is slim. The stamp helped in that effort. I suggest we do it again.
                    Terry

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                    • Gary B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • February 1, 1997
                      • 7018

                      #11
                      Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                      A senior judge in my chapter has pre-printed, adhesive-backed, labels (like address labels; Avery is one company that sells the blank labels) with all the abbreviations he might use when he judges. He sticks a label onto the bottom of one of the judging pages. It really speeds things up and makes it clear what each short, abbreviation he uses means.

                      Here’s a close-up of part of one sheet of labels given to me by the judge (Art McNay?) in my chapter.

                      Gary

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                      Last edited by Gary B.; November 1, 2020, 11:34 AM.

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                      • Gary S.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • July 31, 1992
                        • 1632

                        #12
                        Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                        Originally posted by Gary Beaupre (28818)
                        A senior judge in my chapter has pre-printed, adhesive-backed, labels (like address labels; Avery is one company that sells the blank labels) with all the abbreviations he might use when he judges. He sticks a label onto the bottom of one of the judging pages. It really speeds things up and makes it clear what each short, abbreviation he uses means.

                        Here’s a close-up of part of one sheet of labels given to me by the judge (Art McNay?) in my chapter.

                        Gary

                        [ATTACH=CONFIG]102006[/ATTACH]
                        Very clever and solves many problems. Someone had their thinking cap on.

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                        • Michael J.
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                          • January 27, 2009
                          • 7122

                          #13
                          Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                          BTW, speaking for a old tabulator here at home, the tabulators should not let judging sheets pass that do not have full explanations beyond the abbreviations. Tabs should immediately inform the team leader that the sheets need to be corrected before the owner gets them back.
                          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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                          • Deane M.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • January 2, 2007
                            • 143

                            #14
                            Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                            Vent window cranks pointing in a certain direction???
                            Anybody?

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                            • Harry S.
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                              • July 31, 2002
                              • 5295

                              #15
                              Re: Just got a corvette judged, what does WRA mean

                              I believe the knob, when window is closed, is at the 8 o'clock position.


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