Concours Judging Award

[Larry E.]

Re: Concours Judging Award

[QUOTE=Gary Chesnut (5895);873337]This is the Concours Judging criteria that was published. Gary....

Concours Judging

• Stock Division

Concours Judging Stock Division includes all cars that are basically stock-appearing (fiberglass, body paint color, etc.) with the hood, doors and trunk closed; wheels and tires may be non-OEM in the Stock Division. Cars with paint color changes are judged in the Modified Division.

Originality is NOT judged, only condition is judged. Must have been born as a Corvette, have an original VIN Tag, and have a title/vehicle registration that states the car is a Corvette (i.e. no kit cars). Trim tag is NOT judged.
Stock Division awards are; NCRS Blue Ribbon Award score 94.0 through 100 and NCRS Red Ribbon Award score 85.0 through 93.9. No award below 85.0

Couple of quick questions. If Trim Tag is not judged how do you know there was a Color Change?? Is anything underneath the car looked at? Trans./Exhaust/Springs and etc.? Anything judged for operations? No mention on interior? Thanks>Larry

[Terry M.]

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Dave Perry (19643)

I asked this question, so on the color, I know that if it is a Corvette color, but applied to an inappropriate year, it goes in Modified. My friend's 71 is black, which is a Corvette color, but not commonly available in 71. I'm thinking that the Silver now Red 65 that has been discussed in this thread is painted Code UU Rally Red which is appropriate for 1965. Hence it was in Stock Division. No one had to look at the Trim Tag to know it had an appropriate color for 1965.

There Dave, I fixed it for you. You are right on for the Concours judging. Good Job.

[Larry E.]

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Just a couple of closing thoughts. Are the scoring sheets and point allotment the same for Flight Vs. Concours(Stock Division)?
Or is there more things that are looked at in Flight Judging? Trying to decide how to get my 66 Coupe (Base Engine)which is
original(Born With) as with the Trim Tag judged. Seems to me car prep is roughly the same with both types of judging. Larry

[David H.]

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Just a couple of closing thoughts. Are the scoring sheets and point allotment the same for Flight Vs. Concours(Stock Division)?
Or is there more things that are looked at in Flight Judging? Trying to decide how to get my 66 Coupe (Base Engine)which is
original(Born With) as with the Trim Tag judged. Seems to me car prep is roughly the same with both types of judging. Larry

Larry

Concours judging sheets can be downloaded from "Services" menu at page top.

Dave

[Larry E.]

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Larry Concours judging sheets can be downloaded from "Services" menu at page top. Dave

Thanks Dave for response but your answer has nothing to do with my question. Rather then download all the judging sheets(Have done the Concours sheets). Just want some general statements that>COMPARES THE SCORING OF "FLIGHT JUDGING" TO CONCOURS (STOCK DIVISION). EG.>TOTAL POINTS AND NUMBER OF THINGS LOOKED AT FOR BOTH. THANKS>LARRY

[Harry S.]

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Thanks Dave for response but your answer has nothing to do with my question. Rather then download all the judging sheets(Have done the Concours sheets). Just want some general statements that>COMPARES THE SCORING OF "FLIGHT JUDGING" TO CONCOURS (STOCK DIVISION). EG.>TOTAL POINTS AND NUMBER OF THINGS LOOKED AT FOR BOTH. THANKS>LARRY

Everything you need is in the Judging Sheets, download them.

[Larry E.]

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Thanks for the responses. One last question(Don't want to beat this horse to death) Here goes>
If one shows up(Concours Stock Div.) say with a 66 Corvette with sidepipes and is a AOS Body Car. If Trim Tag is not looked
at and the installation is a perfect factory job; then no points are deducted>correct? We are just looking at appearance and
functionality
not originality. What I getting at is options can be changed and not deducted(points)if installation is of factory type. eg.>adding power steering. Should be a simple Yes or No answer. Thanks>Larry

[Patrick H.]

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Thanks for the responses. One last question(Don't want to beat this horse to death) Here goes>
If one shows up(Concours Stock Div.) say with a 66 Corvette with sidepipes and is a AOS Body Car. If Trim Tag is not looked
at and the installation is a perfect factory job; then no points are deducted>correct? We are just looking at appearance and
functionality
not originality. What I getting at is options can be changed and not deducted(points)if installation is of factory type. eg.>adding power steering. Should be a simple Yes or No answer. Thanks>Larry

Correct.

Change colors, make the interior leather, add options, add Vintage Air, doesn't matter. It all works.

[Gary C.]

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Cars with paint color changes are judged in the Modified Division

[Patrick H.]

Re: Concours Judging Award

Cars with paint color changes are judged in the Modified Division

I believe that if you use a color available the year of manufacture, it is still in the Stock Division.

[David B.]

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It is really great to see such a long string and so much interest in Concours Judging.

On the paint color, if you present your Corvette with paint/combination that is appropriate for your model year, the color would not disqualify you from the Stock Division.

However, if you present your Corvette with a stock factory color/combination from a model year other than that of your car, your car will be judged in the Modified Division.

No need to look at the Trim Tag in either case...what it says is irrelevant for Concours Judging.

Dave

[George W.]

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I got to judge the first Concourse Meet at Lakeland. WOW!!!
I told Dave B., "this Concourse thing is better than apple butter, the jar it's in, and the shelf it sets on".
I still feel that way.

[Rex M.]

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I got to OJ this past year on the Concourse judging. I didn't receive any OJ points because I wasn't selected. I was allowed to OJ with the understanding I would get no points. I wanted to anyway. I liked it and from now on that's all I want to judge!! I think if NCRS is ever going to grow Concourse judging will be the reason why. C4 and up, the most of them have been modified. Start getting use to it.

[James G.]

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The thing I like about the class, is cars that would normally never come out are now enjoying a NCRS event and adding to the new friends for me to meet.

[Frank D.]

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The thing I like about the class, is cars that would normally never come out are now enjoying a NCRS event and adding to the new friends for me to meet.

Exactly. The Florida regional a while back had a nice antique motorcycle display IIRC; I'd have gone just for that.