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  • Mike L.
    Frequent User
    • September 28, 2016
    • 50

    Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

    I have a 64 numbers matching 327/365hp coupe. One exhaust manifold just cracked and my
    question is "do I now put Headers on or try to keep original and put back on manifolds?

    Mike
  • Donald O.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • May 31, 1990
    • 1585

    #2
    Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

    Mike,

    There is a lot less to change if you just get a stock replacement ram's horn exhaust manifold.
    Have asked around locally to you if there is a cast iron welder that would do it?

    IF you switch, you'll also need a new header collector pipe to connect to the rear exhaust pipe or bubba something to a side exhaust. Plus you may have to modify how the alternator is mounted, and the power steering (if so equipped).

    BUT.... IF YOU RACE, you should have switched to headers along time ago.

    Don
    The light at the end of the tunnel has been turned off.

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    • Mike L.
      Frequent User
      • September 28, 2016
      • 50

      #3
      Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

      Thanx Don,

      I was told that you can't weld cast iron manifolds!

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      • Richard G.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • July 31, 1984
        • 1715

        #4
        Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

        You can weld them.
        Brazing may be better.
        Both are not the best fixes and easily identified.
        What not just go on Ebay and purchase the correct manifold for your car?
        The Non-FI manifolds are not outrageous.
        GM made service replacement for years after our cars were manufactured.
        They will fit fine and cost even less.
        And of course, the China made copies that all the Corvette Parts dealers stock.
        Best of luck.

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        • Ed S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 6, 2014
          • 1377

          #5
          Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

          It's a 55 year old car with engine technology that is 60 + years old. How much HP are you going to gain with headers - is it worth it? Course of least resistance is to find an original manifold. Probably a lot less expensive too.
          Ed

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          • Joe L.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • February 1, 1988
            • 43201

            #6
            Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

            Originally posted by Mike Lee (62850)
            I have a 64 numbers matching 327/365hp coupe. One exhaust manifold just cracked and my
            question is "do I now put Headers on or try to keep original and put back on manifolds?

            Mike
            Mike------


            I would not even consider putting aftermarket headers on any street car. Just buy another manifold. I prefer new ones. Excellent reproductions are available.
            In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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            • Mark E.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 1, 1993
              • 4503

              #7
              Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

              Headers in a car with fiberglass body is a recipe for even more heat in the interior.
              Mark Edmondson
              Dallas, Texas
              Texas Chapter

              1970 Coupe, Donnybrooke Green, Light Saddle LS5 M20 A31 C60 G81 N37 N40 UA6 U79
              1993 Coupe, 40th Anniversary, 6-speed, PEG 1, FX3, CD, Bronze Top

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              • Patrick H.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • December 1, 1989
                • 11616

                #8
                Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                Mike------


                I would not even consider putting aftermarket headers on any street car. Just buy another manifold. I prefer new ones. Excellent reproductions are available.
                There are some reasonably good reproductions, and some really bad ones.
                Paragon and others sell the reasonably good ones. Note that they are detectable, so if you want to be as original as possible you will look for a good used one.
                Be careful on eBay and through mass-market sellers. A friend had a foreign junk one break the first day he ran the motor.
                Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                71 "deer modified" coupe
                72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                2008 coupe
                Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                • Jack J.
                  Expired
                  • July 31, 2000
                  • 640

                  #9
                  Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                  Mike, which manifold cracked?

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43201

                    #10
                    Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                    Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
                    There are some reasonably good reproductions, and some really bad ones.
                    Paragon and others sell the reasonably good ones. Note that they are detectable, so if you want to be as original as possible you will look for a good used one.
                    Be careful on eBay and through mass-market sellers. A friend had a foreign junk one break the first day he ran the motor.
                    Patrick------


                    The inferior manifolds of which you speak I do not consider as reproductions. I consider those to be just replacements. I'd never use one unless there was absolutely no alternative.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Joe L.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • February 1, 1988
                      • 43201

                      #11
                      Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                      Originally posted by Mark Edmondson (22468)
                      Headers in a car with fiberglass body is a recipe for even more heat in the interior.
                      Mark-------


                      That's one of the biggest problems with headers, even on a steel bodied car but more pronounced on a Corvette. I once talked with a guy that had installed them on a 1971 LS-6. He said the heat problem in the passenger compartment was so bad he was going to remove them and go back to cast iron manifolds.
                      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                      • Mike L.
                        Frequent User
                        • September 28, 2016
                        • 50

                        #12
                        Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                        Passenger side below the original air conditioning. LOL.

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                        • Mike L.
                          Frequent User
                          • September 28, 2016
                          • 50

                          #13
                          Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                          Thanx Ed. I wanted to keep the car original as possible especially because the exhaust is original too but some motorhead
                          suggested that I put headers on.

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                          • Mike L.
                            Frequent User
                            • September 28, 2016
                            • 50

                            #14
                            Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                            Thanx Richard

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                            • Mike L.
                              Frequent User
                              • September 28, 2016
                              • 50

                              #15
                              Re: Exhaust Manifold vs Headers

                              Thanx Joe, that's what I was thinking but this is my first vette!

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