Strange heads 3731539 any suggestions

[Tom P.]

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I don't care what the NCRS community says Tom, I love your car - especially the coveted air box.

-Dan-

Dan,
You are in a minority.

[Bob W.]

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Tom, I have to agree with Dan very nice hot rod. Who cares what anyone thinks, as long as you like it.

Bob

[Darryl D.]

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Dan,
You are in a minority.

[Bob I.]

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Here are those pictures you requested

[Joe L.]

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I don’t think so Tom.

I too really like your car.

It is apparent by the number of people that are active on this site compared to the Corvette forum how many people are into totally original numbers matching cars. The numbers decline every day. Of coarse there is a place for it and why we have this site. I respect what the majority here do as it is a labor of love but it is not for me. I come here for original info but I too prefer to have an original LOOKING car with the upgrades I want.

Darryl------


As I've said many times before, I wonder how many "perfect original restorations" are not really so original "under the skin"? For example, I wonder how many 1965-82 Corvettes have stainless steel lined calipers? Not a single car originally was so-equipped. I wonder how many such Corvettes have non-GM internal engine parts? Etc., etc.

Now, when it comes to the heads that were the original subject of this post, they might be entirely functional. However, I would not "touch them with a 10 foot pole".

[Darryl D.]

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Darryl------


As I've said many times before, I wonder how many "perfect original restorations" are not really so original "under the skin"? For example, I wonder how many 1965-82 Corvettes have stainless steel lined calipers? Not a single car originally was so-equipped. I wonder how many such Corvettes have non-GM internal engine parts? Etc., etc.

Now, when it comes to the heads that were the original subject of this post, they might be entirely functional. However, I would not "touch them with a 10 foot pole".

[Joe L.]

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Regarding the subject heads I don’t understand their purpose? They are a mixed bag of something I can think of no reason or application where they would fit. A 1957 part number, a 1960 date code and camel hump marking. I can not think of any application where this combination makes any sense. They have no value other then as a run of the mill heads where nobody is concerned about numbers. I can see no other use for them. They certainly don’t belong on the OPs car that he is trying to “make” right OR any other 1957 that someone is trying to fool others with.

The point of my post was that there is nothing wrong with creating something that looks like something original when it really isn’t as long as you are not trying to defraud someone. OTOH, I think this has been proven time and again with many top flight and higher awarded cars, there is no problem if it is just for judging, it is when those said cars are offered for sale and those awards are used to elevate the value of the car without true disclosure to any potential buyers.

Darryl-------


The heads pictured are some kind of strange "mish-mash" of small block head configurations. In general, the external configuration more-or-less mimics 1961-68 "double hump" cylinder heads. Many of the discrepancies have already been pointed out. In addition, the "filled-in" accessory end bolt holes would not even be correct for 1969+ applications which originally had the holes. That's because those heads had a flat machined surface on the ends of the heads; these heads would, apparently, just have the holes into the rough cast ends. In addition, the "double hump" casting symbol configuration is not correct for 1969 and later heads.

As has been pointed out, the casting number does not match the configuration of the heads. Why, I don't know. However, for all of the applications for which these heads might resemble the original heads, the casting number is really moot since there's no way it can be seen with the heads installed on a finished engine.

My guess is that these heads are some sort of off-shore "abomination".

[James G.]

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A great friend said, ''WE ARE NOT HERE FOR A LONG TIME.........BUT FOR A GREAT TIME''

I love your car Tom........and how you drive it and share it.

[Edward B.]

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So it's acceptable to defraud judges, but not to defraud a buyer? The distinction escapes me.

[Pancho T.]

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[ (The NCRS community does NOT like my car---------------ask me if I care).

I don't care what the NCRS community says Tom, I love your car - especially the coveted air box.

-Dan-[/QUOTE]
Tom,
Dan is not in the minority. I love you car as well.
Pancho

[Darryl D.]

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So it's acceptable to defraud judges, but not to defraud a buyer? The distinction escapes me.

[Tom L.]

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My thought was Brezinski immediately. When racing years back they were a great cheat until they got figured out at my track. Intake and exhaust manifolds too. Not saying I ever used them though...

[Edward M.]

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Just a follow up on heads with accessory holes on the end of the head. Some (very few, but some) 1958 and 1958 Chevrolet heads also had accessory holes on the end of the cylinder head. These holes were used to support the compressor for the factory "Air Ride Suspension" system that was available on passenger cars in those years.

I have a friend that has an NOS set of these heads, dated 1958, cast 770. They are on an over the counter 1958 Fuel Injected long block assembly, which is stamped with a CS engine code.

[Tom P.]

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Ed,
That is correct. The 58-59 pass cars were available with the Air Ride susp (it was called Level Air). Thus, those cars had heads with threaded holes in the ends of the heads. Also, BIG trucks with air brakes had heads with holes for mounting the air compressor.
There was an emblem on the trunk.