1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

[Ed S.]

I am replacing the dry-rot weather stripping on the front splash shields of my '64 convert. I removed the right side shield but it did not have a weather strip - nor does it have any staple holes from previously existing weather strip. I suspect a PO replaced the original or missing right side shield with a new after market unit but did not bother to install a new weather strip on this side.

Would appreciate advice from any '64 owners re the positioning of the staples on the right side. The left side shield had four stables were pretty much evenly spaced. If I spaced them the same way on the right side one or more staples would be in the bend area that fits around the battery support bracket. So, my question is, where do stales go, just along the two straight edges on either side of the bend or does one or more go in the bend area? For what it is worth neither the AIM or JG specify how many or where the staples should be positioned.

Pic of right side splash shield is attached as a reference.

[Don H.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

I doubt the UAW boys were precise or consistent on this. But here is mine. Hard to see the staples but there are two on each straight part and one mid curve. The WS is old and hard and has pulled away from some of the staples on my splash shield. Jan 64.

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

Don,
Thank you for taking the time to get out the camera, getting on your back and take a pic. Greatly appreciated. That answers my question. The one weather strip piece I removed (from the driver's side shield) look like yours, hard and brittle.

[James W.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

Ed,

When you install the new staples, be sure they are installed from the top side of the shield to the bottom as seen in Don's picture. They will look for this when/if you have the car judged. Also, I believe there should be three or four raised ribs on original style weatherstrip.

James

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

James,
I'm all over the direction of the staples - but thanks for confirming that. Re the "ribs", - I wasn't aware of that. I just examined a small section of the one dry rotted weather strip I removed today. Llike you said, it has two small ribs on one side that ran the length of the piece. The bad news is the repros I purchased (from Paragon) do not have ribs, the exposed surfaces are smooth, totally void of any identifying markings. That's life. Guess I will take the points for non original parts vs, missing and useless.

[James W.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

James,
I'm all over the direction of the staples - but thanks for confirming that. Re the "ribs", - I wasn't aware of that. I just examined a small section of the one dry rotted weather strip I removed today. Llike you said, it has two small ribs on one side that ran the length of the piece. The bad news is the repros I purchased (from Paragon) do not have ribs, the exposed surfaces are smooth, totally void of any identifying markings. That's life. Guess I will take the points for non original parts vs, missing and useless.

Try LIC or Doc Rebuild for the ribbed weatherstrip. Also try to source non-stainless steel staples. Lots of vendors want to sell you stainless when they where plain carbon steel.

James

[Michael J.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

Try LIC or Doc Rebuild for the ribbed weatherstrip. Also try to source non-stainless steel staples. Lots of vendors want to sell you stainless when they where plain carbon steel.

James

+1, in judging, I always use my magnet on staples anywhere.

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

James,
Thanks again! Checked the sources you suggested. Doc Rebuild carries them but no mention of "ribs" in the description and from the pics, they do not look like they have the ribs. LIC does have them with ribs, LIC PN is 26-04. They also have staples, SS, and they claim that they "should pass judging" - they are magnetic (Doc does not have the staples). If a judge checked with a magnet LICs would pass but.... being SS they will always be shiny, like new. That may be a dead give away. I will go for the LIC weather strip items - thanks again.

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

+1, in judging, I always use my magnet on staples anywhere.

Michael, so you are saying that the staples should or should not be magnetic? I am confused here.

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

Try LIC or Doc Rebuild for the ribbed weatherstrip. Also try to source non-stainless steel staples. Lots of vendors want to sell you stainless when they where plain carbon steel.

James

James, one more question, it looks like the ribs are only on one side of the weatherstrip. If that is the case, do the ribs go up or down (toward the pavement)?

[James W.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

James, one more question, it looks like the ribs are only on one side of the weatherstrip. If that is the case, do the ribs go up or down (toward the pavement)?

Ed,

The judging manual does not state which direction the ribs are to be oriented. My car does not have the weatherstripping with the ribs and I took a deduct. Hopefully someone with original weatherstripping will see this thread and respond, it could be that the ribs are oriented on the surface that faces the frame. I will tell you that the magnetic stainless steel staples that were mentioned earlier is a 400 series stainless and will not stay bright. The original staples were not made of stainless steel. Also, when you put on the new staples, there are five staples on the right side and three on the left side. This is called out in the 63/64 judging manual.

James

[Don H.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

My left WS has at least seven staples, about one every inch or so. And the rib lines face up. The staples are punched through the ribs.

[Bob J.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

My left WS has at least seven staples, about one every inch or so. And the rib lines face up. The staples are punched through the ribs.

How can that be? I just read in post 11 that the 63-64 JG says your left WS should only have 3 staples.
Bob Jorjorian

[Ed S.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

How can that be? I just read in post 11 that the 63-64 JG says your left WS should only have 3 staples.
Bob Jorjorian

The summer hire kid working his first day on the job was told to take this rubber strip and staple it on the edge of this metal thing so it doesn't come off. He didn't realize that seven staples exceeded the union standard until he was told to slow down.

[Don H.]

Re: 1964 Front Splash Shield - staples?

I don't think I mis-counted.