Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

[Jim S.]

I have two complete working doors with all door outer handles and inner door opening mechanisms and locking systems in place.

I am left with the following parts to be installed .

(1) Side Glass (now out of sash)

(2) Side glass Sash (detached from regulator assembly)

(3) Window regulator assembly with and lower guide rail and motor attached

(4) Outer door trim and window wipe

(5) Entire Vent Window Assembly

(6) Rear run Channel .

After carefully reading both the A.I.M. and the S.C.M. I am still unclear as to the correct order of replacement. The only one I am clear on is that the Outer Door Trim and Window Wipe must be put in before the Vent window Assembly.

So calling on all you experts with your vast experience, to give me the correct and or easiest order , and any installation hints you can spare !

Thanks,

Jim

[Ralph P.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

The vent window assembly has to go in before any of your #3 . Then I would say next is the rear run, then window regulator assembly with sash attached. I know this works on a non-power window car.... assume same would be true for power windows. Get vent window assembly adjusted for gaps and angle before working on the side window.

[Stewart L.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

The belt mld first, then the regulator and motor assy. Then install the vent assy, the lower part of the window channel is behind the motor. Then install the glass and attach the channels to the regulator. Then run the glass up and work the rear channel into the guide on the window sash. The stops go on the sash at some point after the window is in the door. You can use blue tape on the window to prevent accidental scratches if you want to be extra cautious. Hope that helps.

[Jim S.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Thanks Gentleman.

It looks like it can go either way, and I might be making more of it than it deserves. Always a good idea to check though !

Jim

[Richard M.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Jim,

Here are a few photos of a '67 door I presently have apart to install new vent window regulators on both sides. I didn't remove the sideglass/sash assembly.

I removed the VW assembly with the glass(Power Windows on this one also), with the sideglass installed and the sideglass down. Reinstallation requires the window to be raised up to access the lower "stud" to screw it into the lower channel of the vent window assy. Simply tilt the VW assy towrd the interior so the bottom end of the channel can be seen and thread in the stud.

Here are a few measurements I just took of the rear edge of the glass. This should help you place the glass in the sash with the setting tape. This is the right(Pass side) door.

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Keep in mind the front edge shouldn't stick forward too far, as it needs to fit into the vent window rear vertical channel properly.

Rich

[Jim S.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Thanks Rich,

If I am reading this correctly , that's a far cry from just centering the window in the channel !

I have sketched out what I think you are showing me. Is it in fact correct ?

3/4 of an inch from bottom of rear window to edge of channel , and 1/4 of an inch from the bottom of front widow to the edge of the channel .

Jim

[Richard M.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Jim, Yes your diagram matches what I have here.

Rich

[Jim S.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Thank you Sir ! As always, most informative .

Jim

[Gary B.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Boy do I need a sketch like that for a '66 coupe window!

Gary

[Jim S.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Gary,

Try this Sketch.

While painstakingly measuring and remeasuring the window and channel to duplicate Rich's measurements I noticed two things :

(1) It's hard to define the exact edge of the bottom of the window.

(2) Every time I got close I saw an interesting correlation .

So here it is . The easiest way to duplicate Rich's measurements ,within reason, and not just "center the glass ". As near as I can measure it , this way comes within an 1/8th of an inch from Rich's measurement and my previous sketch, and without all that measuring !!!!

I will be interested to know what others think of it .

Jim

[Richard M.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Jim, I did these about 5 years ago on another '67 convertible. The last photo is where I test fit the sash channel guides in the rear channels. As you can see, the glass should not protrude too far as to hit the rear channel too hard. Some other photos show some spacing of the glass which may help.

Also, when setting the glass in the setting tape, use some soapy water solution to help it slide easier. You'll have to carefully use a rubber mallet on the TOP edge of the glass to drive it into the sash tape. Make sure your sash is firmly affixed to a solid vice to keep steady. Smack it down with medium hits, not TOO hard. Gentle, but firm. You have only one shot at it so make sure your measurements are close.

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[Gary B.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Jim,

Your sketch looks great. Now I just need the willpower to do it. Thanks.

Gary

[Ralph P.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Boy do I need a sketch like that for a '66 coupe window!

Gary

Gary, Summer 2004 Restorer had a comprehensive article on C2 coupe door anatomy using a '65 example....many detailed photos, diagrams, etc.

[Gary B.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Ralph,

Thanks. I just pulled that issue from my library. Fig 9 in the article makes me wonder if Jim's sketches only apply to roadster glass.

Gary

[Gary B.]

Re: Complete Roadster Door Re-assembly

Gary,

Try this Sketch.

While painstakingly measuring and remeasuring the window and channel to duplicate Rich's measurements I noticed two things :

(1) It's hard to define the exact edge of the bottom of the window.

(2) Every time I got close I saw an interesting correlation .

So here it is . The easiest way to duplicate Rich's measurements ,within reason, and not just "center the glass ". As near as I can measure it , this way comes within an 1/8th of an inch from Rich's measurement and my previous sketch, and without all that measuring !!!!

I will be interested to know what others think of it .

Jim

Jim,

In looking at the 2004 Restorer article that Ralph pointed out, I realized that your sketch shows the shape of roadster glass. Does the same rear alignment line work for coupe glass?

Gary