Judging question - Missing Trim Tag

[Paul R.]

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yes Mike, it is...we need to get some of the "big" guys to respond.....some of the threads regarding this topic indicate there is no clear answer......and the rules appear to be very confusing....controlling the frauds are a difficult challenge....

[Paul R.]

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Mike, there are two rivets and a very clean area around them.....afraid a picture won't show anything....but here goes....IMG_0071.jpg

[Terry M.]

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Paul
You are looking in the wrong place.

The trim tag is attached to the body at the front of the door opening, just above the upper hinge.

[Michael J.]

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Paul
You are looking in the wrong place.

The trim tag is attached to the body at the front of the door opening, just above the upper hinge.

Right, here is my '81, driver's side

[Paul R.]

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Terry, OMG...it is painted over so well I had to feel it to find it....thanks you very much....I will sleep well tonight....

Thank you all for the support....but still a very interesting subject....Paul

[Gary C.]

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Paul,

Good deal. IIRC there's only 1 car that's been judged without a trim tag and it was a '65 FI.

Gary
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[Michael W.]

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Paul
You are looking in the wrong place.

The trim tag is attached to the body at the front of the door opening, just above the upper hinge.

That's why I asked.

Glad that Paul found it!

[David H.]

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Thanks David, interesting....I will contact GM Archives and see where that leads...The January Regional Winter Convention is in Florida and not sure who will be Team Leader.....a bit risky on my part to register and pay ahead not knowing acceptance or not.....several high ranking officers in NCRS (in other threads) were not as optimistic as you, but I will try it anyhow....Paul

Paul,

A similar situation would be a C4/C5 that was missing it's Service Parts Identification Label. This paper tag is affixed to underside of the center console door or storage compartment lid behind seats or rear storage compartment deck lid and contains option data, paint codes, etc. Easy to imagine how one of these paper tags could go missing. In case of a missing tag, the owner would obtain a build sheet from the Corvette Museum and have it sent directly to the Team Leader prior to the car being judged.

The Corvette Museum only has documents on Bowling Green cars, but GM Archives has Shipper Documents on 1977 and up Corvettes. The Shipper contains basically the same info as the build sheet, so it would serve as an independent verification of the car's configuration.

[Michael J.]

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Terry, OMG...it is painted over so well I had to feel it to find it....thanks you very much....I will sleep well tonight....

Thank you all for the support....but still a very interesting subject....Paul

So it has been repainted and they painted over the trim tag? Seems odd for a car with that low mileage and a 4 star Bowtie.

[Jimmy P.]

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The trim tag for 78-80 and those 81 Corvettes assembled in St. Louis was installed on the car before painting was finished so they were painted over. Trim tags on 81's built in Bowling Green and all 82's were installed on the cars after painting was completed so they were unpainted.

[Michael J.]

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The trim tag for 78-80 and those 81 Corvettes assembled in St. Louis was installed on the car before painting was finished so they were painted over. Trim tags on 81's built in Bowling Green and all 82's were installed on the cars after painting was completed so they were unpainted.

True, but the '80s were installed after the second color coat and before the third, so most I have seen are so poorly covered and, after 35 years or so, the thin single coat was usually peeled off as it did not adhere well to the stainless plate. But maybe this one was painted real good in St. Louis and is still completely intact and hiding the plate, anything is possible.

[Leif A.]

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Again, a picture would be nice.

[Dave S.]

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Again, a picture would be nice.

My first thought is to clarify things an send an apology to Corvette Mike New England for suggesting that he sold you a car without a Trim Tag. This thread got way out of hand because the OP did not do any research prior to his post. It seems the car is all good.

[Peter G.]

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Dave..this paper build sheet glued under the center console lid and info sent from the NCM to the National Team Leader on the C4s is much different for the C3s being a riveted metal plate that does not come "unglued" or the console lid being replaced from the car. For a C3 this is a MUCH more serious issue.

[David H.]

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Peter,

For judges the usefulness of the trim tag is to confirm original paint, interior, and build date - part of the info on the shipper document. Shippers are available for 1977 and up cars from GM Archives - so a document sent directly from GM Archives to the Team Leader would be an independent verification of the information on a lost trim tag.

Those glued on Service Parts labels are the "Trim Tag" equivalent for C4s. Service Parts Identification Labels are what the C4/C5 Team Leader checks first before judging begins, hence a missing paper Service label is just a much a problem as a missing trim tag. However, its MUCH easer for C4/C5 owners to fix the problem as the Corvette Museum maintains the information.

Dave

BTW are you going to Frisco?