Dealer stickers

[Walter F.]

Are dealer stickers part of the judging process ? Most dealesr put stickers with dealer name on all the new cars rear trunk when a license plate frame was not available. Are points added or subtracted when stickers are missings or reproductions are present ?

[David H.]

Re: Dealer stickers

Not all dealers affixed dealer stickers to Corvettes. Given this variance, to me the presence or absence of a dealer sticker is an item to be ignored.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Dealer stickers

Not all dealers affixed dealer stickers to Corvettes. Given this variance, to me the presence or absence of a dealer sticker is an item to be ignored.

I agree that's how it should be but dealer installed items are a deduction so I wonder.

[Keith B.]

Re: Dealer stickers

Yes but isn't NCRS as dealer delivered. Or after dealer prep. And most dealers put stickers or emblems in the back of cars

[Ara G.]

Re: Dealer stickers

as it left St. Louis.

[Walter F.]

Re: Dealer stickers

I worked at a Chevrolet dealer in the new car department on the 1970s and EVERY new Chevrolet went out the door with a sticker, be it Camaro, Impala, Nova, Vega or Corvette. In fact the ONLY way a car was not let out the door without one was if on one of those rare times a buyer did not want a sticker the salesmen would write in BIG large letters on the work order no stickers. Although I know little about judging I believe if tags on hose clamps, screws etc, are judged on a cars orginality then a cars dealer sticker should be on it unless the work order stated differently. Some dealers actually drilled holes and put chrome name plates on customers cars. I would think sticks or dealer name plates should be points added.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: Dealer stickers

as it left St. Louis.

As in hubcaps, trim rings & on some years spoilers in the back?

[Walter F.]

Re: Dealer stickers

as it left St. Louis.

Then I have to ask what if a dealer installed P/S mirror or other accessory that was put on at the dealer and was on the orginal paper work. Would points be added or taken off if the mirror or accessory was not on the restored corvette?

[Tracy C.]

Re: Dealer stickers

Not all dealers affixed dealer stickers to Corvettes. Given this variance, to me the presence or absence of a dealer sticker is an item to be ignored.

correctomendo...

[Mark H.]

Re: Dealer stickers

as it left St. Louis.

Yup. I believe the phrase in the judging manuals is "as it left the factory", not "as it sat on the showroom floor".

[Tracy C.]

Re: Dealer stickers

Yes but isn't NCRS as dealer delivered. Or after dealer prep. And most dealers put stickers or emblems in the back of cars

Judged after typical dealer prep. Addition of dealer accessories at owners request is not typical. Deducts are made for added holes in fiberglass (except for dealer emblems). This is all explained in the JRM rev 8.
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[Walter F.]

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Most all did. Just like today you see liscense plate frames from most all dealers. It very rare to see a new car without one unless and vanity frame was put in its place. It was more the the same in the 60s and 70s. That was free advertizing at the owners expense. Once those holes were drilled in your cars trunk with a chrome dealer plate it stayed. Same with stickers. Before portable hair dryers those stickers were pretty hard to get off without damaging the paint.

[Ara G.]

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Then I have to ask what if a dealer installed P/S mirror or other accessory that was put on at the dealer and was on the orginal paper work. Would points be added or taken off if the mirror or accessory was not on the restored corvette?

In my opinion you sure would receive a deduct. I think it would fall under "damage" to fiberglass because of the holes, and/or damage to the paint. Dealer installed items, even ones done prior to the "sale" of the car are not recognized items that the car left the factory with. Same would apply to a vette that had 3 tail lights installed. Clippinger Chevrolet in CA put 3 tail lights in a lot of vettes when they received the cars, but before they were sold. Same rationale would apply - damage to the fiberglass and/or paint. Same with dealer installed luggage racks. Think of the theory this way - the way and the condition that the Corvette was when it drove out of the assembly plant is the condition we judge at NCRS. As soon as it went under the door at the plant and "into the world", all bets are off. ARA

[Tim G.]

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I've presented three different cars for judging with drilled in dealer emblems, the judging varied from either one to two points or no deduction at all. On an original paint car, those holes are staying.

[Leif A.]

Re: Dealer stickers

I agree with Ara's take on the judging and Tim's logic on why they would stay.