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  • Joseph S.
    National Judging Chairman
    • March 1, 1985
    • 862

    1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

    I am looking at page 418 in the 1965 AIM. I do not see a star washer at the accelerator lever for the ground strap. After witnessing several original cars and accelerator levers without star washers or witness marks from star washers I believe this to be true. Anyone else care to comment? Thanks, Joe
  • Tony S.
    NCRS Vice President, Director Region VII & 10
    • April 30, 1981
    • 987

    #2
    Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

    Joe. I know that Marco Hartner is helping put together the mechanical section for the new '65 JG. I won't speak for Marco, but you may want to get his insight. Best, Tony
    Region VII Director (serving members in Arkansas, Kansas, Louisiana, Missouri, Oklahoma and Texas).
    Original member of the Kansas City Chapter, est'd 07/11/1982.
    Member: 1965 and 1966 National Judging Teams
    Judging Chairman--Kansas City Chapter.
    Co-Editor of the 1965 TIM and JG, 6th and 7th editions.

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    • James W.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • December 1, 1990
      • 2652

      #3
      Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

      The '65 396 convertible that I restored and put through chapter, regional, and national flight judging this year was put back together without a star washer and no deductions were taken. The car never had a star washer to begin with, neither does my other '65 that has not been restored. Both cars are late build cars, one is 2209x (A.O. Smith) and 2216x (St. Louis) built.


      Regards,

      James West


      Originally posted by Joseph Scafidi (8321)
      I am looking at page 418 in the 1965 AIM. I do not see a star washer at the accelerator lever for the ground strap. After witnessing several original cars and accelerator levers without star washers or witness marks from star washers I believe this to be true. Anyone else care to comment? Thanks, Joe

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      • Timothy B.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • April 30, 1983
        • 5183

        #4
        Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

        The accelerator lever is plated so it does not need the star washer to bite like the painted frame.

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        • Jimmy B.
          Expired
          • July 31, 1980
          • 584

          #5
          Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

          my 65 #19371 sb 300 w/ac/auto had a star washer on the accel lever ground strap mount. Same owner since at least 1968 and possibly the original owner.

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          • Page C.
            Very Frequent User
            • February 1, 1979
            • 802

            #6
            Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

            Hi Joe,
            Looked at 3 unrestored 1965,s and none had a star washer or any evidence of ever having one. One is a early Dec 64, one late June and one mid July 65.

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            • Wayne M.
              Expired
              • March 1, 1980
              • 6414

              #7
              Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

              Originally posted by Page Campbell (2299)
              Hi Joe,
              Looked at 3 unrestored 1965,s and none had a star washer or any evidence of ever having one. One is a early Dec 64, one late June and one mid July 65.
              Same here, Page. Both my unrestored '65s [Nov 6th L76 and Aug 2nd L78] show no marks that would indicate such a washer. Same with the lever I pulled off a 396 body in a junkyard in Spokane WA, in the early '90s.

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              • F S.
                Infrequent User
                • January 1, 1981
                • 28

                #8
                Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                Where does the other end of that ground strap connect to ?

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                • Don H.
                  Moderator
                  • June 16, 2009
                  • 2254

                  #9
                  Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                  Underneath the left rear intake manifold bolt directly under the lever. The same bolt is holding the left side plug wire support.

                  photo 1-62.jpg

                  Leif
                  AIM U69 A4 shows the eyelet above the bracket, under the bolt head, no washer on either end.
                  Last edited by Don H.; November 28, 2014, 05:34 PM. Reason: add

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                  • Leif A.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1997
                    • 3625

                    #10
                    Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                    Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
                    Underneath the left rear intake manifold bolt directly under the lever. The same bolt is holding the left side plug wire support.

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                    Don,

                    It appears that your strap at the intake manifold bolt is on top of shield support bracket...was that the case in '65? I know in '67 there was a star washer at the accelerator lever and the manifold end was under the shield support against the manifold.
                    Leif
                    '67 Coupe L79, M21, C60, N14, N40, J50, A31, U69, A01, QB1
                    Top Flight 2017 Lone Star Regional

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                    • F S.
                      Infrequent User
                      • January 1, 1981
                      • 28

                      #11
                      Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                      I am looking for some direction on the ground strap location for the door sill for a 65 convert., and for the motor mount location. Any help would be greatly appreciated. FRED

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                      • Jim D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1985
                        • 2883

                        #12
                        Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                        April build 1965 - no star washer and the ground strap is under the bracket. 1 owner car that had never been touched.

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                        • Marco H.
                          Expired
                          • March 1, 2002
                          • 218

                          #13
                          Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                          Joe,
                          As you stated, the AIM does not list a star washer at the accelerator lever ground strap. While some cars were built with them, many had none. For some reason, the current JGs (not just '65) are calling for a star washer. The new '65 edition JG should be corrected. As others mentioned, a star washer was used, when a ground connection was made into a painted surface such as the frame, core support and headlight motor brackets.
                          Hope this helps,
                          Marco

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                          • Edward J.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • September 15, 2008
                            • 6940

                            #14
                            Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                            I thiink the 63 JM also states the star washer should be there,But a few here have already stated that is should not be there. How ever the some Judges are still deducting for missing star washers.
                            New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                            • Dan H.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • July 31, 1977
                              • 1369

                              #15
                              Re: 1965 Accelerator lever ground strap??

                              Ed, there's even a picture from the AIM in the JG that shows no star washer used there. Guess the Judges should learn what an AIM is and maybe look at some origianl cars?
                              Dan
                              1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
                              Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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