1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

[Mark S.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Your assumptions would be spot on, save your money.

Truly appreciated Roy. For edification purposes, is there anything you can point out/draws your attention on any of these items?

[Roy S.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Truly appreciated Roy. For edification purposes, is there anything you can point out/draws your attention on any of these items?

Unfortunately expressing any knowledge regarding how to determine that these documents are fake in a public forum will only educate the unscrupulous thereby providing them with the knowledge that they need to improve their counterfeiting attempts. I therefore chose not to do that in a public environment. Make no mistake this is deception the documents are aged intentionally, they do not say "reproduction intended for display purposes only" on them.

[Mark S.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Here are some pictures of the engine stamp pad. Does the broached surface and stampings appear to be legitimate or a re-stamp?

Engine Pad-ID-2.jpgEngine Pad-VIN-1.jpgEngine Pad-VIN-2.jpg

[Patrick T.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Here is a picture of my '67 tank sticker while still on the tank, FWIW.

[Ara G.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Boy is that nice looking Pat....and nice combo on your car too.....ARA

[Al R.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Hey Patrick, was wondering what your serial # is. My car had #48 written all over the body frame parts, but the wrong tank sticker was installed on it (mine's a 327--the TS is for a 427-435). PM me for my serial # . Still hunting for the car the 427 sticker belongs to and for my correct sticker. Al

[Patrick T.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Hey Patrick, was wondering what your serial # is. My car had #48 written all over the body frame parts, but the wrong tank sticker was installed on it (mine's a 327--the TS is for a 427-435). PM me for my serial # . Still hunting for the car the 427 sticker belongs to and for my correct sticker. Al

Thanks Ara!

Al, my serial # is 22526 with a July 6th build date. The body # on the firewall is 294. Good luck on your search. Patrick

[Dave C.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Roy , just wondering, everything else aside, would it not be possible for a spelling error, were these documents not typed out by hand ?

[Edward C.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Roy , just wondering, everything else aside, would it not be possible for a spelling error, were these documents not typed out by hand ?

These documents were printed out on a high speed dot matrix IBM 1403 printer set up by program. These were not hand typed. No chance for a spelling error unless ALL had the same error. Those fake docs are done very well. Most have a wrong font or two, those look good. It's getting hard to tell. But there are still ways to tell.

[Dave C.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Thanks Edward, that is very interesting, sounds like you are an expert like Roy, and we need you people around.

[Roy S.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

Thanks Edward, that is very interesting, sounds like you are an expert like Roy, and we need you people around.

Edward appears very well versed in his knowledge of documents, which proves you do not have to be a long time member to be knowledgable in production practices. I paid no attention to the spelling error, in my analysis because humans do make mistakes it happens. But like Edward I would assume if accurate it appears on other documents produced in the same time frame. These documents are counterfeit, no question about it. The current level of deception is significant enough that people are falling for it daily, and that is sad.

[Edward C.]

Re: 1967 Tank Sticker - Real or Reproduction?

I am definitely no expert but I have been interested in vettes since the 80s. Even though my post count is low I actually first joined NCRS back in 92 but have not been active. Also like Roy had said earlier I don't want to say too much to feed the repro doc makers.
My main interest is C3's specifically 69s as that was all I could afford in the 80s and I kind of stuck with them. Now that I can afford C2s I need to learn everything all over again.......
I have seen many real docs (mostly 69) and you can usually tell at first glance even in just a pic, but lately I have seen some really good copies and the only way I would be able to tell is by seeing the paper in person with a magnifier. The IBM printer is very specific with how it prints. But the truth of the matter is most people will be fooled even with the real bad copies and that is very unfortunate. This 67 paper looks real good. I don't know 67 docs well at all. Just that they use the same type font.
The real catch 22 is do you inform the average Corvette fan on the net and put all the knowledge out there to help them distinguish the real from the fake? But at the same time it may help improve the repro makers. I don't know. I just know I can pick out most fake paper because they use the wrong format or a letter is wrong, etc. If you can find legit docs and compare to the fakes you will see all kinds of differences MOST of the time. But there are some very good fakes out there. By profession I build high detail small scale replicas so I have a tendency to pick out the smaller (meaningless to most) details. But really if you pay some attention anyone can figure it out. Or I guess you can ask here......