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  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15600

    #16
    Re: Acceptance Criteria

    Originally posted by Ronald Ciaglia (11859)
    it was a great learning before an attempt at PV. I truly thought the company who resorted my clock did it right.... it was done about 2007-2008 when I first started "campaigning the car". I can do mechanical work but not body or gauge work so I relied on a an outside company... and like they say when you assume.... the good news is it only cost me 25 points where ass at TX or FL and PV it would be load it up and head for home. I appreciated the learning... what I am still trying to get my head around is the sometimes the manual is a guide and sometimes it is a bible. As an engineer working with the FDA I look at things as "black and white" . And that was my error I figured that since the published test was non sweeping second hand = mechanical that I had the correct hardware. I live and learn.... and I have to give a shout out to the team leader, while we did not see eye to eye he did explain to me how things work... or did not work. I also want t thank Mr. Mickey for explaining how the internal hardware of a correct clock works such that I could come to agreement with what as being explained to me that differed than tat manual. Did not make the pill easier to swallow but helped understand the physics. thanks .... By the way the company who restored the clock now has the one off my other c2 to restore... you can guarantee I will check out the internals better next time.
    The TIM&JG is ALWAYS a guide.
    Terry

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    • Michael J.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • January 27, 2009
      • 7122

      #17
      Re: Acceptance Criteria

      Interesting side note from the other hat I sometimes wear at the Mustang Club of America judging. I informed the MCA judging chair a while back about this clock issue, '60s Mustangs and Shelbys have the same issue, after the NCRS started to realize clock rebuilders were resourceful types. It has not shown up yet in our judging, but I have seen at least one restore where they have done the clever rebuild with quartz to simulate original. I think now MCA and SAAC will also start using the shutoff check too.
      Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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      • John M.
        Expired
        • January 1, 1998
        • 813

        #18
        Re: Acceptance Criteria

        Is this disconnecting of the battery something new? Don't remember ever doing that.

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        • Chuck M.
          Very Frequent User
          • February 1, 2002
          • 335

          #19
          Re: Acceptance Criteria

          Originally posted by Gene Manno (8571)
          Ronald,
          You as an owner should know what parts have been assembled to your car. The basis of NCRS is the restoration and preservation of said car. If replacement, non original design parts have used in the restoration of your car then expect deductions. This may be solid state voltage regulator, quartz clock, urethane or epoxy paint, solid state radio, roller camshaft, radial tires or anything not of original configuration out side of the CDCIF judging requirements. Owners are quite clever in masking such non original configurations and judges need to be just as clever in detecting them. So my suggestion to you is DO NOT assemble any parts and assemblies on one's car that are not of original configuration. But if one does expect deductions. Power on and power off is NOT outside reasonable judging.
          HI Ron,

          It was good meeting you in KC and thank you for bringing your car to the National. I think Gene said it best, you have to know your car and while you may not have experienced the power off technique in the past, I can assure you it has been around for a while. We have been asked to do this on our car at the last 3-4 judged events we have attended. As Terry said, if we had been able to hear (or not hear in this case) the audible click in the clock, the deduct would have been taken without having to test with the battery. More importantly, this was discovered during Flight Judging and thankfully not found while conducting the PV. You should be very proud of your car (Black/Silver coupe!) and the work that you have done to it over the past couple of years. Its always nice to hear the stories from people that have owned their cars as long as you have. Thank you again for allowing us to judge your car and I am confident that you will do well on your PV. If you have any questions about the PV, Ill be happy to talk to you about our experience last year in Virginia and help in any way I can.

          Best,
          Chuck

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #20
            Re: Acceptance Criteria

            Can't miss the "thunk" of the rewind system in an original...
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7122

              #21
              Re: Acceptance Criteria

              Originally posted by William Clupper (618)
              Can't miss the "thunk" of the rewind system in an original...
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Page C.
                Very Frequent User
                • February 1, 1979
                • 802

                #22
                Re: Acceptance Criteria

                Ron,
                Since the "Bonus Points" (fire extinguisher, battery disc. sw., and NCRS decal) are judged during OPS. Did you also loose 3 points for not having the disconnect installed ?

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                • Harry S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5299

                  #23
                  Re: Acceptance Criteria

                  Originally posted by Page Campbell (2299)
                  Ron,
                  Since the "Bonus Points" (fire extinguisher, battery disc. sw., and NCRS decal) are judged during OPS. Did you also loose 3 points for not having the disconnect installed ?
                  They are 3 points each, if you have them all it's a 10 point bonus. If you only have 2 you forfit 4 points.


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                  • Page C.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • February 1, 1979
                    • 802

                    #24
                    Re: Acceptance Criteria

                    Harry's responce is correct. You get 3 points each for the 3 items and receive a total of 10 if you have all 3. When you have only 2 items you get 6 points and lose 4. Thanks Harry.

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