1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

[Kenneth B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Dave, stay on the safe side and refer strictly to the 1970-1972 NCRS Judging Guide, 4th Edition until the 5th Edition ever comes out. Don't spend money based on other "experts" advice.

The judging guide is dead wrong. Both my FEB & March built have the use GM 6041 ETC. Don't know where the NCRS EXPERTS came up with the wording on the dip stick. PS my Feb LT-1 has 20,000 MI & the march Con. has 40,000 what earthly reason would both have been changed to the same one. Others can drink the coolaid & make correct Corvettes incorrect because someone decided what the consider factory correct but I hope some of us leave it the way it was.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

The judging guide is dead wrong. Both my FEB & March built have the use GM 6041 ETC. Don't know where the NCRS EXPERTS came up with the wording on the dip stick. PS my Feb LT-1 has 20,000 MI & the march Con. has 40,000 what earthly reason would both have been changed to the same one. Others can drink the coolaid & make correct Corvettes incorrect because someone decided what the consider factory correct but I hope some of us leave it the way it was.

Ken,
Go back to 6th grade English, please. Reading the dipstick paragraph will make more sense to you then.

The wording, or lack of it, was provided by a 454 expert. There is no reference to the wording, if any, on small blocks.

To all the rest of you:
I will say again, that in order to get changes to the TIM&JG you have to provide better information than "mine (please tell us your what?) looks like that." I expect most of us have something that kind or sort of looks like your something.

There are two posts above that not only describe in pictures what a small block dip stick looks like, but provide a VIN and or build date to specify them.

Without a VIN and or build date (of the car, not the engine) the posts that say "mine looks like that" do no good for the judging manual. If it makes you feel good, that is fine, but there will never be a change based on such flimsy material. As it stands the only change that is likely to be seen is the removal of any reference to the wording on the stick -- since we don't judge it anyway. If you want more information in the manual you have to provide it. It is not provided by "experts."

As I post this there are 46 replies and almost 600 views -- and we are nowhere with respect to the manual. Have a nice day.

[Jerry B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Since you are referring to my post, my E1969 Corvette 350/350 was born late Sept.1968. Number one, I will not post my s/n on this forum. I enjoy my privacy. Number two, I do not your crack about sixth grade. I have a Master in Communication. So much for being helpful.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Ken,Go back to 6th grade English, please. Reading the dipstick paragraph will make more sense to you then.The wording, or lack of it, was provided by a 454 expert. There is no reference to the wording, if any, on small blocks.To all the rest of you:I will say again, that in order to get changes to the TIM&JG you have to provide better information than "mine (please tell us your what?) looks like that." I expect most of us have something that kind or sort of looks like your something. There are two posts above that not only describe in pictures what a small block dip stick looks like, but provide a VIN and or build date to specify them.Without a VIN and or build date (of the car, not the engine) the posts that say "mine looks like that" do no good for the judging manual. If it makes you feel good, that is fine, but there will never be a change based on such flimsy material. As it stands the only change that is likely to be seen is the removal of any reference to the wording on the stick -- since we don't judge it anyway. If you want more information in the manual you have to provide it. It is not provided by "experts."As I post this there are 46 replies and almost 600 views -- and we are nowhere with respect to the manual. Have a nice day.

LT-1 coupe SN 3893. The conv is 5128. Sorry Terry but I can read & NO WHERE in the judging guide dose it NOT differentiate between BB &SB except for the end cap. PS my 454 AIR conv dose have the dip stick wording like the one in the judging manual SN7601. Also how dose one have to do to prove a change in the manual.

[Patrick H.]

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Number one, I will not post my s/n on this forum. I enjoy my privacy.

It's easy to give a serial number range, such as 16000-16100, and not specify exactly which car you own. You can even then include the engine assembly date without giving anything away.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Since you are referring to my post, my E1969 Corvette 350/350 was born late Sept.1968. Number one, I will not post my s/n on this forum. I enjoy my privacy. Number two, I do not your crack about sixth grade. I have a Master in Communication. So much for being helpful.

JERRY I think Terry was talking about me. I have known him a LONG time & he is a super guy & forgot more than I ever knew about 70/72 Corvettes. He & I do like to argue from time to time. Sorry you got caught up in it.

[Jerry B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

It is all good.

[Kenneth B.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

It is all good.

THANKS! I know we all get passionate about Corvettes & what we all want to keep them original as we can. Judging manual be dammed.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

LT-1 coupe SN 3893. The conv is 5128. Sorry Terry but I can read & NO WHERE in the judging guide dose it NOT differentiate between BB &SB except for the end cap. PS my 454 AIR conv dose have the dip stick wording like the one in the judging manual SN7601. Also how dose one have to do to prove a change in the manual.

Ken,
Thank you for both the small block & BB information.

One person can't prove a change like this. If we (that is all of us) want to avoid the kind of issue that came about because of the paragraph under discussion the manual will either have to contain no non-judged information about the dip stick, or contain authoritative information about all the 1970-72 dipsticks and their varieties. So we need to fill in the blanks for small blocks, and big blocks.

I think we have sufficient data for small blocks up to your 5xxx car. What about some later 1970 small blocks? And in asking that question I am assUming there is no difference in the two (or three in 1970) small block dip sticks. The #1865 and #2161 photos are both from LT1s, and I think both your cars are LT1s also. There is the possibility that the other small blocks might have different dip sticks, however unlikely that may be given the earlier discussion about part numbers. We know from past experiences with other parts that sometimes changes were made in configuration without part number changes.

Then we need some samples of 1971 small blocks. We don't necessarily need photos, although they will be helpful if there are some differences from the photos posted.

Then we need some samples of 1972 small blocks. Again same as above.

Then we need more 1970 big blocks.

Then we need some evidence from 1971 big blocks -- both engines here would be nice, just to be sure if there are or are not differences.

Then we need 1972 big block data.

I suspect a cooperative effort could get all this 1970-72 data in a reasonable time, but it will require cooperative effort. No one person will be able to do it, although someone willing to take on the task would be welcome I am sure.

And if you don't want to provide even the approximate build information of your car here, you are welcome to email me. I promise I will not come and steal your car. My garage is full to overflowing as it is.

[Terry M.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Since you are referring to my post, my E1969 Corvette 350/350 was born late Sept.1968. Number one, I will not post my s/n on this forum. I enjoy my privacy. Number two, I do not your crack about sixth grade. I have a Master in Communication. So much for being helpful.

Jerry,
I thought I made it as clear as I could in my comment about sixth grade by prefacing those remarks with Ken's name. That obviously didn't work for you. I am sorry about that, but it does go to prove a point.

I work in an job that requires exact communication and in order to ensure that we use a process called three way communication. I state the work to be done in prescribed detail. The person in charge of the work repeats that exactly back to me. I then confirm that what they said back to me is what I told them, and correct them if necessary. In spite of all that there are some occurrences of misunderstandings.

I don't think there is any way to even come close to that level of communication with the judging manual or on this board; so we are forever doomed to the errors of our ways.

[Bob I.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Dipstick from a 1970, L46, #11437.

[Joe L.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

Since you are referring to my post, my E1969 Corvette 350/350 was born late Sept.1968. Number one, I will not post my s/n on this forum. I enjoy my privacy. Number two, I do not your crack about sixth grade. I have a Master in Communication. So much for being helpful.

Jerry------


The VIN numbers of any 1968 or later Corvette are not exactly private. Anytime the car is parked in a public place all someone has to do is to walk up and look at it.

[Rich C.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

All discussion of dipsticks has referred to length..what about thickness?

1973 LS-4 454 coupe, owned 24 years
1996 LT-4 CE coupe owned 11 months
Smu ttynose 'Finestkind' IPA- now on tap!

[Joe L.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

All discussion of dipsticks has referred to length..what about thickness?

1973 LS-4 454 coupe, owned 24 years
1996 LT-4 CE coupe owned 11 months
Smu ttynose 'Finestkind' IPA- now on tap!

Rich-----


...which brings up the question of which elements and at what concentrations are included in the steel alloy from which the dipstick blade is manufactured?

[Mark D.]

Re: 1970 LT1 Dipstick for 5 Quart Oil Pan

What good is any thread unless someone is offended. I'm a moron and I saw that Terry was clearly offending Ken. My Dad used to joke that he met everyone in his hometown as they passed through the 6th grade:-)) Get it?

I have a PHD but I've never used it cause I really don't enjoy digging holes. You knuckleheads better not start talking about fat bald Irish pilots or I too will become deeply offended.

Ya can't say good morning without offending someone.