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  • Larry McKenna

    Acrylic Lacquer

    When restoring a 1st generation corvette wil I have a point deduction for using a base coat / clear coat finish?
    If so, where can I find a restorer or paint shop in California who can do acrylic? It is illegal to paint with acrylic lacquer here.
  • Gene B.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 31, 1990
    • 144

    #2
    Re: Acrylic Lacquer

    Yes. You will lose all of the originality points and since you lose all of the originality points, you cannot get any of the condition points. So it is a big hit.

    You could consider single stage urethane, but the door jams, hood relief and channels, trunk relief and channels all need to have the appearance of unbuffed lacquer. According to the JG, if the paint has the appearance of lacquer, then you should get all of the pint for paint.

    Gene

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    • Gene B.
      Very Frequent User
      • May 31, 1990
      • 144

      #3
      Re: Acrylic Lacquer

      Yes. You will lose all of the originality points and since you lose all of the originality points, you cannot get any of the condition points. So it is a big hit.

      You could consider single stage urethane, but the door jams, hood relief and channels, trunk relief and channels all need to have the appearance of unbuffed lacquer. According to the JG, if the paint has the appearance of lacquer, then you should get all of the pint for paint.

      Gene

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      • Michael W.
        Expired
        • April 1, 1997
        • 4290

        #4
        Re: Acrylic Lacquer

        There's plenty of cars painted with BC/CC that have no deductions made during flight judging- it all depends on the skill of the painter in being able to make it look like lacquer.

        On the other hand, there lots of cars painted in lacquer that have had deductions for being 'over restored'.

        It's not always a clear cut yes or no question.

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        • Michael W.
          Expired
          • April 1, 1997
          • 4290

          #5
          Re: Acrylic Lacquer

          There's plenty of cars painted with BC/CC that have no deductions made during flight judging- it all depends on the skill of the painter in being able to make it look like lacquer.

          On the other hand, there lots of cars painted in lacquer that have had deductions for being 'over restored'.

          It's not always a clear cut yes or no question.

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          • Alan Drake

            #6
            Re: Acrylic Lacquer

            Recently I attended tech school on Corvette paint. NCRS has modified how paint is judged as of 1/04, however its seems to just now be catching on.
            Talk to your local NCRS and have them explain or run a course on how the new standards are to be met. It's not as bad as one would expect in fact it seems to me to be very reasonable.

            This information may be on the site, but I'm not sure where. Hope somebody responds with more info for you.
            Alan

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            • Alan Drake

              #7
              Re: Acrylic Lacquer

              Recently I attended tech school on Corvette paint. NCRS has modified how paint is judged as of 1/04, however its seems to just now be catching on.
              Talk to your local NCRS and have them explain or run a course on how the new standards are to be met. It's not as bad as one would expect in fact it seems to me to be very reasonable.

              This information may be on the site, but I'm not sure where. Hope somebody responds with more info for you.
              Alan

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              • Michael W.
                Expired
                • April 1, 1997
                • 4290

                #8
                Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                Judging paint is no different than judging anything else- including stamp pads and trim tags.

                If there's no visual clue on the judging field that the object you're looking at is not typical of factory production, then no deducts are made.

                This is nothing new.

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                • Michael W.
                  Expired
                  • April 1, 1997
                  • 4290

                  #9
                  Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                  Judging paint is no different than judging anything else- including stamp pads and trim tags.

                  If there's no visual clue on the judging field that the object you're looking at is not typical of factory production, then no deducts are made.

                  This is nothing new.

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                  • Harmon C.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1994
                    • 3228

                    #10
                    Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                    Watch the Last Sting Ray I thought I seen some steel wool being used on the jams. If I am correct this could be a lesson in how to dull the jams.
                    Lyle
                    Lyle

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                    • Harmon C.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1994
                      • 3228

                      #11
                      Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                      Watch the Last Sting Ray I thought I seen some steel wool being used on the jams. If I am correct this could be a lesson in how to dull the jams.
                      Lyle
                      Lyle

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                      • Steven S.
                        Expired
                        • November 1, 1995
                        • 151

                        #12
                        Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                        Steelwool will work in areas you can reach but in the back around the door hing, you will still have glossy surfaces that a judge will see with a flashlight. Best way is to have the painter paint the door jambs, hood and truck lips first using gloss retarder in the paint. Then soft mask the car and paint as normal.

                        Steve

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                        • Steven S.
                          Expired
                          • November 1, 1995
                          • 151

                          #13
                          Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                          Steelwool will work in areas you can reach but in the back around the door hing, you will still have glossy surfaces that a judge will see with a flashlight. Best way is to have the painter paint the door jambs, hood and truck lips first using gloss retarder in the paint. Then soft mask the car and paint as normal.

                          Steve

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                          • Stephen B.
                            Very Frequent User
                            • April 1, 1988
                            • 876

                            #14
                            Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                            I areas where you can't reach with steel wool, try some Testor Semi-gloss or flat clear from your local hobby shop. Sometimes, just a dusting to flatter clear from a spray can should do the trick. Bunky

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                            • Stephen B.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • April 1, 1988
                              • 876

                              #15
                              Re: Acrylic Lacquer

                              I areas where you can't reach with steel wool, try some Testor Semi-gloss or flat clear from your local hobby shop. Sometimes, just a dusting to flatter clear from a spray can should do the trick. Bunky

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