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  • Vincent F.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2006
    • 202

    4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

    My shifter touches console opening in 3rd and 4th gear.Tryed adjusting rods to shorten throw to no avail,console has no play either,goes into gear but hits console
  • Vincent F.
    Expired
    • August 31, 2006
    • 202

    #2
    Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

    Sorry 1971 car

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    • Lyle24961

      #3
      Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

      This is a common problem on sharks. The bottom of the dash needs to be moved to the rear of the car. I hope you have some room on the front side so this will work. The shifter and linkage only fit and work good in one place. Adjust the dash and shifter plate to not hit last.
      Lyle

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      • Vincent F.
        Expired
        • August 31, 2006
        • 202

        #4
        Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

        Tryed adjusting console back,cant move back anymore

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        • Michael H.
          Expired
          • January 29, 2008
          • 7477

          #5
          Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

          Vincent,

          From your previous posts on adding bumpers etc., I assume this is a car/body that you've had off the frame? It sounds like you may have the body positioned slightly different than it was originally. The body can move around quite a bit on it's frame mount pads and produce the exact problem that you describe. You can loosen the body mounts and all bumper brackets and shift the body the 1/8" or 1/4" that you need for shifter clearance. This is a very common problem. In fact, it was a problem on several cars from that era when they were brand new. The repair was exactly as described.

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          • Vincent F.
            Expired
            • August 31, 2006
            • 202

            #6
            Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

            Mike thats it,the body was off the car by the previous butcher owner,I'm trying to finish a pro resto on a car that was sloped together thanks,What ashame with this car.its coming together nicly thou

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            • Michael H.
              Expired
              • January 29, 2008
              • 7477

              #7
              Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

              Forgot to mention, you may have to loosen the pinch bolt at the steering column coupler also but it's not absolutely necessary if the body is only moved 1/8". Good luck with your project.

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              • Harmon C.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • August 31, 1994
                • 3228

                #8
                Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                Michael

                I have used the two holes in the sill plate to line up the body and then made any adjustments needed to the move the shift plate. I do the interior last. On the car I'm working on now I will check the shifter clearnce as soon as the body is on and shift the body as needed. Great Tip!!! The other problem is front wheel clearance on sharks. I have had a real job a few times to stop the shifter from hitting but a body shift when you are almost done would not be easy.
                Thanks for the tip
                Lyle
                Lyle

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                • Sal C.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • December 1, 1984
                  • 430

                  #9
                  Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                  I believe the assembly manual calls for spacers (washers) between the shifter bracket and the crossmember as a way to "dial in" the correct shifter placement. However, if you are hitting in both 3rd and 4th gear, both ends of the console, there seems to be another problem. Possibly an incorrect 3-4 rod or a repro console plate with bad dimensions?????

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                  • Harmon C.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • August 31, 1994
                    • 3228

                    #10
                    Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                    Sal
                    I give the shim the bracket a try on one car. I ended up moving the bottom of the dash as they have some adjustment. The radio not in the right spot can eaisly be the problem.
                    Lyle
                    Lyle

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                    • Terry M.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • September 30, 1980
                      • 15595

                      #11
                      Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                      I had problems on my 1970 (built before the AIM called for the washer shims Sal refers to) hitting the console opening in the reverse position. This is a from the factory situation. The body has never been off, nor has the center console been removed or adjusted.

                      At Sal's suggestion I checked the 1971 AIM for the placement of those washers. Installing a single washer cured my problem at the expense of a owner inspired modification that will never be seen by the judges.
                      Terry

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                      • Vincent F.
                        Expired
                        • August 31, 2006
                        • 202

                        #12
                        Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                        Sal my mistake,hits in2nd and 4th,console has no play,shifter plate is original.I have to reshim car anyway,going to try to inch body back a touch

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                        • Jack H.
                          Extremely Frequent Poster
                          • April 1, 1990
                          • 9906

                          #13
                          Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                          This was a common problem that gets progressively addressed in the AIM as time progresses with 'as required' shims being used where the shifter mounts to the center cross member. By the mid-70's the AIM's call instruct assy workers to 'center' the shift pattern within the console cut-out. But, the CSM (Chassis Service Manual) shows you EXACTLY how to do the job!

                          You add shims (washers) beneath the front of the cross member and the shifter attaching points. This cocks the shifter up and back, creating clearance for the shift lever relative to the front of the cutout. You add shims at the rear of the shifter attachment and this translates the shifter fore/aft relative to the cutout.

                          I ran into a good ole boy who worked at a Chevy dealership in the late 60's/early 70's who said he did this all the time to satisfy customer complaints on newly delivered cars. He put me inside, raise the car on a lift and had me run through the gears.

                          He called 'clear prop' (get my hands off the shifter so he could adjust things without losing finger tips) and after 15-minutes, my shift pattern was smooth as butter and properly centered within the console's cutout...

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                          • Vincent F.
                            Expired
                            • August 31, 2006
                            • 202

                            #14
                            Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                            My shifter mounts to the trans housing,not the crossmember,71,are we talking about the same thing here.

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                            • Mike E.
                              Extremely Frequent Poster
                              • February 28, 1975
                              • 5136

                              #15
                              Re: 4sp shifter/cnsole clearance

                              Bubba was restoring your car in this area, too. Mounting the shifter to the trans ended in 1966 production.

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