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  • Chuck S.
    Expired
    • April 1, 1992
    • 4668

    #16
    Re: Repop verses Original" Chuck"

    The objective is to determine how close to an original Corvette the judged car APPEARS to be, rather than how much of it is reproduction. If you restored the car, or have owned it for a long time, you should already know how much of the car is reproduction.

    In my opinion, judges don't have a priority of looking for repro parts; even if you identify a repro, you still have to document how the part is different from "typical factory production". Some reproduction parts are VERY GOOD, while others are not so good. No punches are generally pulled...if a judge recognizes the part as a repro (he may have personal experience with the part), he will look to find all the little deficiencies he expects that repro to have and deducts accordingly. It gets all the deductions it deserves. Judging is still done as objectively as possible.

    During the judging process, the deficiencies found by the judges should have written comments detailing exactly what is wrong with the part. The simple statement "Repro" IS NOT ADEQUATE...judges should explain how the part fails to meet "typical factory production" and be able to offer the owner suggestions on how to improve the part. Of course, when the comments become more than the space and time available, sometimes it's easier to just "call a spade a spade", and recommend a source for a part that appears more original.

    And, Roy, this IS the current judging system; I'm not making this up. How long has it been since you or your car was involved in judging?

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    • Kevin M.
      Expired
      • November 1, 2000
      • 1271

      #17
      Re: Now That We Have Told You The SECRETS...

      Next you'll be telling me, soylent green is people.

      Kevin

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      • Roy B.
        Expired
        • February 1, 1975
        • 7044

        #18
        Re: Repop verses Original" Chuck"

        You said=
        If you restored the car, or have owned it for a long time, you should already know how much of the car is reproduction.

        Nooooooo I may have just got a Corvette or some one has!!!
        I've been judging from the being of NCRS but was out of it for years because I started SACC. But started again ,I judged at Monterey 04 National and regional meets C1's
        I don't own a judges hat only started two national Corvette clubs wrote many Articles and owned many Corvettes. Sorry.
        And I'm only giving and asking a question and still think NCRS is the best!!

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        • Jack H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 1, 1990
          • 9906

          #19
          Re: They may not have been on the car when judged.

          Al started his business in Garden City, MI (lived on a lake just south of Pontiac) and relocated the business to El Paso where it is today after growing and becomming a labor target for the UAW....

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          • William C.
            NCRS Past President
            • May 31, 1975
            • 6037

            #20
            Re: Now That We Have Told You The SECRETS...

            Shame those secerets are only available to anyone who has attended a Judges training session in the last 6 years or so...
            Bill Clupper #618

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            • Dick W.
              Former NCRS Director Region IV
              • June 30, 1985
              • 10483

              #21
              Re: Now That We Have Told You The SECRETS...

              Chuck, it is obvious that you did not sleep in class at Dallas. Very well put. If you know it is a repro, but cannot explain why you know, the benefit ALWAYS goes to the owner.

              NCRS has made a very concerted effort for many years to improve the quality of the judging. Going way back to when Keith Kibbe was Judging Chairman there was an effort in this direction. The present focus was begun by Dennis Clark and Roy Sinor has taken the ball and is RUNNING by leaps and bounds with it. Dallas was a good example. The Authentication series of manuals is another great leap in spreading the knowledge base amongst the members. The late John Woods contributed quite a bit. And it will continue as long as there is a need for education.
              Dick Whittington

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              • Roy B.
                Expired
                • February 1, 1975
                • 7044

                #22
                Re: Repop verses Original" Chuck"

                Chuck I know your a good guy and I mean no disrespect , just a different opinion, the best to you and thanks for the discussion ROY

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                • Chuck S.
                  Expired
                  • April 1, 1992
                  • 4668

                  #23
                  Re: Repop verses Original" Chuck"

                  No disrespect taken, Roy. I almost posted the same words to you last night, thinking you were offended, but decided it best to leave it lay. In this case, I am just the messenger, but it is a message in which I believe.

                  I needle you sometimes about the rare old Corvette curiosities you posess, but I have the utmost respect for your Corvette accomplishments, as well as the knowledge and commitment you have about the marque.

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