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  • Christopher Buckingham

    69 hoses

    I am in the process of restoring a 1969 435 before i put the body on the frame i want to have a set of 1969 NOS vaccum hoses. I know it sounds impssible but if anyone know of anyone who has any, please tell them to email me.
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43203

    #2
    Re: 69 hoses

    Christopher----

    If you wait to find a set of NOS 1969 vacuum hoses for your restoration, you may never see it completed. Vacuum hoses were NEVER available as a GM SERVICE part, either in the form of a "set" or individual units. These were PRODUCTION-ONLY items, similar to brake and fuel lines which were also never available as SERVICE parts.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Joe L.
      Beyond Control Poster
      • February 1, 1988
      • 43203

      #3
      Re: 69 hoses

      Christopher----

      If you wait to find a set of NOS 1969 vacuum hoses for your restoration, you may never see it completed. Vacuum hoses were NEVER available as a GM SERVICE part, either in the form of a "set" or individual units. These were PRODUCTION-ONLY items, similar to brake and fuel lines which were also never available as SERVICE parts.
      In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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      • jon herrick

        #4
        Re: 69 hoses

        Chris I too have a 1969 435 and I would be interested in talking to you about your car , also I might know were a used original set might be. Call collect @ 314-846-6853. Jon

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        • jon herrick

          #5
          Re: 69 hoses

          Chris I too have a 1969 435 and I would be interested in talking to you about your car , also I might know were a used original set might be. Call collect @ 314-846-6853. Jon

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11626

            #6
            Re: 69 hoses

            Christopher,

            If your hoses are good but the stripes are bad, John Walluk (sp?) in New York advertises recoloring. This may be better than the Dr Rebuild hoses which are quite good but not quite the real thing. John advertises in the Driveline.

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11626

              #7
              Re: 69 hoses

              Christopher,

              If your hoses are good but the stripes are bad, John Walluk (sp?) in New York advertises recoloring. This may be better than the Dr Rebuild hoses which are quite good but not quite the real thing. John advertises in the Driveline.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • chester

                #8
                Re: 69 hoses

                my 68 were toast, I replace them with Dr. Rebuilds, there are enough problems with system as is, dry rotted hoses suck, new are "pretty". Frame off with old stuff-eek. Car sound great, mounted my 68 this past weekend, what a step forward. jc

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                • chester

                  #9
                  Re: 69 hoses

                  my 68 were toast, I replace them with Dr. Rebuilds, there are enough problems with system as is, dry rotted hoses suck, new are "pretty". Frame off with old stuff-eek. Car sound great, mounted my 68 this past weekend, what a step forward. jc

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                  • Jack H.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • April 1, 1990
                    • 9906

                    #10
                    Re: 69 hoses

                    With the exception of Chester's response (I can understand if hoses are ACTUALLY history), you've gotten good info. BUT, too many, in my opinion, leap to the conclusion they need to 'gut' the vehicle and replace hoses.

                    During frame off and/or engine out, you have a pretty unique opportunity to remove and restore your factory original hose set. Trick is to gently wipe the surface with non-caustic that will help preserve the outgassing of plasticizers that occurs naturally due to heat and UV 'cooking' of the rubber. A can of WD-40, a wipe cloth, several cool beverages and a quiet peaceful day make the job go swiftly.

                    Spray and wipe off dirt grease and work the spray into the rubber. It will NOT remove factory original color coding and WILL fill minor surface abrasion/wear areas. Hose sets will look almost new again and actually BE the originals.

                    As you go, check integrity by taking each section, plugging one end and pulling vac from the opposite to test/verify functionality. Often, leaks occur at junction ends wear rubber was cut and the ends exposed to the effects of the elements. Look for radial cracks, chips, flaking and, as needed, take a knife/razor blade and slighly shorten the hoses affected to get to fresh rubber.

                    You just might find it's actually fun to work with the original parts on your car in lieu of throwing money at substitute/replacement items. BUT, in Chester's defense, if you've got bona fide TRASHED parts it's best to say 'bye bye' in the name of performance/safety. There are Corvette specialty scrap yards who WILL pull you original hoses, BUT like Joe says, this will be USED not NOS. So, it's a choice of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't know.... and

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                    • Jack H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • April 1, 1990
                      • 9906

                      #11
                      Re: 69 hoses

                      With the exception of Chester's response (I can understand if hoses are ACTUALLY history), you've gotten good info. BUT, too many, in my opinion, leap to the conclusion they need to 'gut' the vehicle and replace hoses.

                      During frame off and/or engine out, you have a pretty unique opportunity to remove and restore your factory original hose set. Trick is to gently wipe the surface with non-caustic that will help preserve the outgassing of plasticizers that occurs naturally due to heat and UV 'cooking' of the rubber. A can of WD-40, a wipe cloth, several cool beverages and a quiet peaceful day make the job go swiftly.

                      Spray and wipe off dirt grease and work the spray into the rubber. It will NOT remove factory original color coding and WILL fill minor surface abrasion/wear areas. Hose sets will look almost new again and actually BE the originals.

                      As you go, check integrity by taking each section, plugging one end and pulling vac from the opposite to test/verify functionality. Often, leaks occur at junction ends wear rubber was cut and the ends exposed to the effects of the elements. Look for radial cracks, chips, flaking and, as needed, take a knife/razor blade and slighly shorten the hoses affected to get to fresh rubber.

                      You just might find it's actually fun to work with the original parts on your car in lieu of throwing money at substitute/replacement items. BUT, in Chester's defense, if you've got bona fide TRASHED parts it's best to say 'bye bye' in the name of performance/safety. There are Corvette specialty scrap yards who WILL pull you original hoses, BUT like Joe says, this will be USED not NOS. So, it's a choice of the devil you know vs. the devil you don't know.... and

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                      • Christopher Buckingham

                        #12
                        Re: 69 hoses

                        I didnt think i could get a set i have the dr rebuilds in, i am going to lean up the originals they are still good

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                        • Christopher Buckingham

                          #13
                          Re: 69 hoses

                          I didnt think i could get a set i have the dr rebuilds in, i am going to lean up the originals they are still good

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11626

                            #14
                            Re: 69 hoses

                            Chris,

                            I actually did this (well, my Dad did, as he is "Chief Cleaner" for his restoration) in the 72 conv project. Unfortunately our hoses had some nasty paint overspray on them, but despite this with time they came out looking great.

                            Best of Luck,

                            Patrick
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Patrick H.
                              Beyond Control Poster
                              • December 1, 1989
                              • 11626

                              #15
                              Re: 69 hoses

                              Chris,

                              I actually did this (well, my Dad did, as he is "Chief Cleaner" for his restoration) in the 72 conv project. Unfortunately our hoses had some nasty paint overspray on them, but despite this with time they came out looking great.

                              Best of Luck,

                              Patrick
                              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                              71 "deer modified" coupe
                              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                              2008 coupe
                              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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