vin tag resto

[Patrick H.]

Re: vin tag PURIST????

JC,

We are referring to the fact that once a VIN tag is removed, the potential exists to "change" an entire car.

Example: You have a stolen 1970 LT-1 leather interior, etc. Corvette convertible. We all know that there were few changes from 70 to 71, so you buy a cheap parts-car 71 convertible, or even another 70, and swap VIN tags. Voila! The car is "clean" and no one knows. You can now make your money.

Others have swapped the VIN's of wrecked big block hig-option cars onto virgin small block bodies, rather than restore the original BB body.

Anyway, the "rule" is that you'd rather sell your spouse than take off and "restore" a VIN tag, especially as it has occurred that these cars have been impounded as "potentially stolen" when viewed by a law enforcement officer.

Now, if your windshield header of the 68 was rusted and worse than swiss chees, and you "had" to take off the VIN tag to replace metal, then just make sure you use the rosette rivets to reattach it.

Patrick

[Patrick H.]

Re: vin tag PURIST????

JC,

We are referring to the fact that once a VIN tag is removed, the potential exists to "change" an entire car.

Example: You have a stolen 1970 LT-1 leather interior, etc. Corvette convertible. We all know that there were few changes from 70 to 71, so you buy a cheap parts-car 71 convertible, or even another 70, and swap VIN tags. Voila! The car is "clean" and no one knows. You can now make your money.

Others have swapped the VIN's of wrecked big block hig-option cars onto virgin small block bodies, rather than restore the original BB body.

Anyway, the "rule" is that you'd rather sell your spouse than take off and "restore" a VIN tag, especially as it has occurred that these cars have been impounded as "potentially stolen" when viewed by a law enforcement officer.

Now, if your windshield header of the 68 was rusted and worse than swiss chees, and you "had" to take off the VIN tag to replace metal, then just make sure you use the rosette rivets to reattach it.

Patrick

[Lou Lapham]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Ethics aside check your state law regarding vin tag removal or replacement.I believe in the state of Michigan they don't care if it fell off or you took it off it has to be replaced by a state police officer.When i see birdgages and vin tags and titles for sale i see a license to steal!I am sure my 66 that was stolen in 94 is living another life with a RESTORED vin tag.I say kill off these UFO vins.Regards,Lou

[Lou Lapham]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Ethics aside check your state law regarding vin tag removal or replacement.I believe in the state of Michigan they don't care if it fell off or you took it off it has to be replaced by a state police officer.When i see birdgages and vin tags and titles for sale i see a license to steal!I am sure my 66 that was stolen in 94 is living another life with a RESTORED vin tag.I say kill off these UFO vins.Regards,Lou

[chester]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

I agree with what you have said, The windshield cage was in need of minor repair, and I have the Paragon rivots. Thanks for the clarification, was not sure if I did a boo boo in my restoration, I have many pics of the whole process to make it clear that it is the car. thanks sorry if I butted heads with anyone....jc

[chester]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

I agree with what you have said, The windshield cage was in need of minor repair, and I have the Paragon rivots. Thanks for the clarification, was not sure if I did a boo boo in my restoration, I have many pics of the whole process to make it clear that it is the car. thanks sorry if I butted heads with anyone....jc

[Jack H.]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Didn't 'butt heads'. I responded to your post and DID tell you where you can find correct rosette head 'replacement' rivets. As others have indicated (confirming my allusion) there are SOME who have strong views on the idea of EVER removing critical mfgr ID plates that ARE covered by both State and Federal law. You saw some of this. End of subject....

[Jack H.]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Didn't 'butt heads'. I responded to your post and DID tell you where you can find correct rosette head 'replacement' rivets. As others have indicated (confirming my allusion) there are SOME who have strong views on the idea of EVER removing critical mfgr ID plates that ARE covered by both State and Federal law. You saw some of this. End of subject....

[chester]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Agreed. already have those rivots. the end. jc

[chester]

Re: vin tag Check your states law

Agreed. already have those rivots. the end. jc

[Patrick H.]

Re: vin tag

Chester,

I won't say that there aren't reasons to do it. To be honest, the VIN support on my old 1976 VW Beetle (in another restoration life) was rusted, and the plate with its one rivet fell off (!) during my restoration. At the proper time, before I put the windshield back in, I riveted it back on. What else to do, when I saw it fall off myself? Besides, who cares about rivet details on a car like that....

Anyway, as you can see, best not to "advertise" playing with these things. But don't worry, we won't tell. :)

Patrick

[Patrick H.]

Re: vin tag

Chester,

I won't say that there aren't reasons to do it. To be honest, the VIN support on my old 1976 VW Beetle (in another restoration life) was rusted, and the plate with its one rivet fell off (!) during my restoration. At the proper time, before I put the windshield back in, I riveted it back on. What else to do, when I saw it fall off myself? Besides, who cares about rivet details on a car like that....

Anyway, as you can see, best not to "advertise" playing with these things. But don't worry, we won't tell. :)

Patrick

[chester]

Re: vin tag

Hey, Patrick

I've got a 71' Beetle. (needs restored too) Yea, your right too, This car may be reaching the over restored point, I figured you do it once, why not do it right and do it all. jc

[chester]

Re: vin tag

Hey, Patrick

I've got a 71' Beetle. (needs restored too) Yea, your right too, This car may be reaching the over restored point, I figured you do it once, why not do it right and do it all. jc

[Patrick H.]

Re: vin tag

Chester,

Tried for 5 years to sell my custom-paint-and-lowered Beetle, and finally succeeded in 1994 after buying the Vette. The Beetle just wasn't fun after driving the Vette. Now the stupid Bugs like mine are the hottest thing around and I could get twice what I received then ($4500).

Oh well. I'd rather have the Vette any day. Better ride, better handling, more power, and TWO VIN rivets!

Patrick