1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

**Michael C.** · April 24, 2003, 06:33 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

Thats a tough question. My suggestion would to be call someone like Pro-team in Napoleon Ohio and describe the car to them. One twist, tell them that you are selling the car yourself and ask how much they would give you. You now have the wholesale of the car, you will be able to figure a close retail from that. If you are buying a driver only, who cares about the numbers. But if you plan to show or someday sell the car when your done with it, you have limited your buying market to non collectors. A numbers match car WILL appreciate at a faster than a NOM. Hope these thoughts help. Mike Chase PS I cant help to guess, but wholesale in the mid to high 20s

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 06:33 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

Further to my original post, please have a look of this pic of the frame in the rear wheel area. Do I see weld repairs of stress fractures? Again, appreciate your opinion!

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 06:39 PM

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Thanks Mike. Our posts crossed paths! Please see my pic and a possible concern. I am not a C2 person and the frame may be just fine. But I do not see those marks/welds on my 1979. Just cautious I guess. I will not buy before seeing and driving but even that will cost me $600.00 in airfare/hotel...BTW, the price is about $27,000US.

**Michael C.** · April 24, 2003, 06:56 PM

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Im not a C2 guy either, but those marks sure do not look factory to me. You are going to need more help than I can offer. Another suggestion, if you are flying where there is a local NCRS chapter, why not call them up and get one of their guys go and look at the car for you. It would probably cost you a 150-200 bucks for such an inspection. Chump change when you are about to drop between 25-30grand. If the car is a bust, you just saved 400 in airfare. If its ok, the extra couple of bucks is good insurance. If no local NCRS and you dont get any qualified responses, re post the picture with a new message on this site asking about a 67 Frame only. Good Luck, it can be agonizing searching for just the right one. Mike Chase

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 07:06 PM

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Good advice Mike. I have been looking for five years but that pic worries me. I thought this one was the one but....Let's see what others have to say about those markings on the frame. I have another pic to follow.

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 07:18 PM

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Here is another look at that frame area.

**Ed Jennings** · April 24, 2003, 07:33 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

I looked at my 67 coupe, and the frame has the same exact welds in the same places, at least what I can see of it without removing a tire. That area isn't the place that rust out occurs. It is in the horizontal frame area just ahead of the "kick up".

I looked at the pictures of the car the other day and thought it looked like a real bargain at $27K. Actually, I thought the guy was offering it way too cheap.

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 07:38 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

Thanks Ed. I realize that those are not rust points but I was wondering about accident damage and frame straightening/repairs. But your message is reassuring!

**Ed Jennings** · April 24, 2003, 07:52 PM

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Remember, I didn't tell you to buy the car. Seriously, it looks like a pretty good deal from what I can see. No substitute for looking/driving the car personally.

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 08:09 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

I understand completely. Believe me I will view personally and drive! I am not a fan of EBay buying.

**Craig S.** · April 24, 2003, 09:06 PM

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What you are looking at is the "trailings" from the wire feed welder...I am guessing in 67 the frame was hand MIG welded, and the guy was pulling the trigger in advance of hitting the weld point. If you look close, they all lead to the bead area. Pretty common to see this stuff on frames, trailing arms, etc. It is more visible in these pictures, to me, the sheen of the paint appears slightly glossier than I prefer....but I am not a judge either. Price sounds good though....I can tell you from personal experience you can invest a lot more going through the restoration process....REAL easy to do....my 67 has some of these weld trails in places too...Craig

**Craig S.** · April 24, 2003, 09:11 PM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

BTW....looks like the Calipers may be VB's....they paint them silver, should be low sheen black. From what I can see of the kickup, the surface and boxed end covers look good, but that plate area of the side channel is where you get rot, and in the pocket area. Check these areas closely for SOLID steel, not bondo to make it look good. this car does look pretty good from here...the inside of the T-arm pocket looks pretty smooth too...Craig

**Paul L.** · April 24, 2003, 09:27 PM

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Thanks Craig. Much appreciated. Any comments on the NOM block? The engine is solid and clean running. How does NCRS look upon a "close" 327 original?

**Craig S.** · April 25, 2003, 12:59 AM

Re: 1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

With respect to the NCRS view of NOM, Jack Humphrey had a great post, it seems like in the past 6 months, explaining the judging view of the block and points....you could search for it. Any engine with casting and build after the car is a total deduct of originality points, as is incorrect casting number. Assuming you have a correct block casting, and build date preceding the car assembly wihin 6 months (2 weeks to 2 months is typical), you get down to the final points being related to the original engine verified by assembly date, suffix code, and VIN derivative on the pad. The more that is correct, the better the value to your car (at least from my viewpoint), but nothing is as good as having the original engine. To me, having a correct block, built like the original,dated correctly for the assembly of the car, is much better than something totally different, but, neiher is original. I am sure others may feel different, but for me, getting as close as possible without being fraudulent is much better....but as far as assigning dollar value, I have no idea. I am one to drive and enjoy these cars, I would truly hate having a car I was scrared to take out on the road at all...I find it a horrible shame to stick these cars away and never drive them....they were designed to be driven and driven hard from my viewpoint....I feel like I entered a time capsule when I take the 67 out, turn on the oldies station to something like the Beach Boys, and pretend I can even begin to hear it over the side pipes in my air coupe....Craig

1967 Coupe Pricing-NOM

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