63 idler arm pics

[Michael G.]

Could some please post some pics of an original 63 idler arm?

[Timothy B.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Michael,

Here are pics of a idler arm I believe is from a 1963 power steering set up I purchased and installed on my 63, the arm is well wore out.

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?t=81981

[Alan D.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Do a search on thread titled
Repro 67 Idler Arm - Pics

Posted a good picture however showing it again in a thread is beyond me.

[Jim B.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Here are a couple more.

[Michael G.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Thanks guys.

In one of the references, Rich mentioned a"shear mark" on top of the arm that mounts to the frame. What is that?

[Rich P.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Thanks guys.

In one of the references, Rich mentioned a"shear mark" on top of the arm that mounts to the frame. What is that?

Michael,

what I was referring to was on the very top of the arm that bolts to the frame you can clearly see the in the forging/stamping process that the arm was sheared and not cut. Many of the replacement arms seem to have a smooth top as in it was cut and not rough like being sheared. Hope that makes sence.

Rich

[Alan D.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Although it does not look like it, its clearly a shear and not a cut
Original 64 Idle Arm

[Scott S.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Here are a couple more.

Jim,

Is the Idler Arm in your pictures a reproduction part, with the "B" stamp (Post #4, picture 2)?

[Jim B.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Scott--it is an original, not a repro.

[Joe L.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Here are a couple more.

Jim------


All correct except for the nut. The original slotted nut was a "plain" finish and not zinc plated.

[Scott S.]

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Jim------


All correct except for the nut. The original slotted nut was a "plain" finish and not zinc plated.

Joe and Jim,

Jim's pictures in Post #4 show the Idler Arm ball joint followed by the off-white plastic washer followed by the foam washer.

In another Thread (Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration, see last two posts) it says that the order is reversed, that it should be the foam seal immediately after the ball-joint and then the off-white plastic washer.

Which is correct?

[Jim B.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Joe's comment is no doubt correct regarding the nut finish (in my preceding post about originality, I was only referring to the arm itself being original...probably wasn't clear). Regarding the order of installation...the reason the washer and seal are the way they are in my photo is I simply threw them together on the arm so I wouldn't lose them before I got around to installing the arm on my car. I thought I would figure out the correct order at that time. Sect. 9 (Steering) of the '63 AIM gives no guidance, presumably because the idler arm was already attached and considered part of the Relay & Tie Rod Assembly (Sect. 9 of the AIM only shows the bolts/washers/nuts attaching the idler arm to the frame). I had read the previous forum thread on the subject, but in that Alan Drake's posting and photo appeared to show the order as I had it in my photo (although Joe disagreed later in that thread). It was unclear whether Alan's washer/seal removal was on an original virgin/never removed idler arm. So while I certainly usually bow to Joe's wisdom in these matters, reading the prior threads does lead to some confusion.

[Joe L.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Joe and Jim,

Jim's pictures in Post #4 show the Idler Arm ball joint followed by the off-white plastic washer followed by the foam washer.

In another Thread (Idler Arm on Steering linkage restoration, see last two posts) it says that the order is reversed, that it should be the foam seal immediately after the ball-joint and then the off-white plastic washer.

Which is correct?

Scott-----


I was commenting on the correctness of the various components and not on the order of assembly of the seal and plastic washer. However, with respect to that order of assembly, if I recall correctly the seal is installed against the idler arm and the plastic washer against the relay rod. So, the order seen in the photo would be reversed.

[Joe L.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

Joe's comment is no doubt correct regarding the nut finish (in my preceding post about originality, I was only referring to the arm itself being original...probably wasn't clear). Regarding the order of installation...the reason the washer and seal are the way they are in my photo is I simply threw them together on the arm so I wouldn't lose them before I got around to installing the arm on my car. I thought I would figure out the correct order at that time. Sect. 9 (Steering) of the '63 AIM gives no guidance, presumably because the idler arm was already attached and considered part of the Relay & Tie Rod Assembly (Sect. 9 of the AIM only shows the bolts/washers/nuts attaching the idler arm to the frame). I had read the previous forum thread on the subject, but in that Alan Drake's posting and photo appeared to show the order as I had it in my photo (although Joe disagreed later in that thread). It was unclear whether Alan's washer/seal removal was on an original virgin/never removed idler arm. So while I certainly usually bow to Joe's wisdom in these matters, reading the prior threads does lead to some confusion.

Jim------


I did understand that your purpose in posting the photo was to show a correct idler arm. I was just pointing out the finish on the nut as sort of a "by the way" kind of comment. As I pointed out in another response, I wasn't commenting, at all, on the order of assembly of the seal and plastic washer. However, I did offer my opinion on the correct order in that subsequent response.

[Alan D.]

Re: 63 idler arm pics

After looking at my past post even I'm confused so went back and here is my understanding as of today - please if something is wrong, post.
The arm is from my March 64 & is original.