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  • Greg A.
    Infrequent User
    • October 24, 2012
    • 12

    Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration worthy

    I am trying to locate a Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration worthy of an NCRS grading. Can anybody provide pointers to a few places? I tried a place out west here in Norcal who stated they offered the service but after four attempts to get more details and no replies, I have given up on their non-responsiveness... Thanks in advance.
  • Terry M.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • September 30, 1980
    • 15599

    #2
    Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

    Is your goal exhaust manifold restoration without a deduction in NCRS judging?

    If it is, depending on the class your car is in (what year it is), your goal may be unrealistic.
    Terry

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    • Greg A.
      Infrequent User
      • October 24, 2012
      • 12

      #3
      Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

      Terry can you explain "exhaust manifold restoration without a deduction in NCRS judging?" please??

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      • Terry M.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • September 30, 1980
        • 15599

        #4
        Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

        Originally posted by Greg Andrade (55602)
        I am trying to locate a Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration worthy of an NCRS grading. Can anybody provide pointers to a few places? I tried a place out west here in Norcal who stated they offered the service but after four attempts to get more details and no replies, I have given up on their non-responsiveness... Thanks in advance.
        Originally posted by Greg Andrade (55602)
        Terry can you explain "exhaust manifold restoration without a deduction in NCRS judging?" please??
        Perhaps I should have asked you what you mean by the above bolded statement in your opening post.
        I assUmed you were looking for a restoration service the results of which would result in no judging deduction. Am I wrong?
        Terry

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        • Greg A.
          Infrequent User
          • October 24, 2012
          • 12

          #5
          Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

          Terry, You are correct, no points deduction. I have a set of very un-pitted manifolds with air tubes and check valves all needing a cosmetic clean-up, air tubes removed, and busted stud replaced (or all studs replaced).

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          • Terry M.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • September 30, 1980
            • 15599

            #6
            Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

            Originally posted by Greg Andrade (55602)
            I am trying to locate a Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration worthy of an NCRS grading. Can anybody provide pointers to a few places? I tried a place out west here in Norcal who stated they offered the service but after four attempts to get more details and no replies, I have given up on their non-responsiveness... Thanks in advance.
            Originally posted by Greg Andrade (55602)
            Terry can you explain "exhaust manifold restoration without a deduction in NCRS judging?" please??
            Then beware of coatings added to the manifold. Some exhaust manifold restorers like to do that as a means of preventing corrosion. To my eye that creates an artificial finish that is not like TFP. Of course what matters to you is not what I think, but what the person who judges your car thinks.
            Terry

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            • Chris S.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 1, 2000
              • 1067

              #7
              Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

              Jerry McNeish does a VERY nice job on intake and exhaust manifolds.
              He has done several for me -
              1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
              Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
              1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
              1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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              • Chris S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • January 1, 2000
                • 1067

                #8
                Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                1954 Corvette #3803 - Top Flight 2012, Bloomington Gold 2012,
                Triple Diamond Award 2012, Gold Concourse Award 2012, Regional and National Top Flight 2014
                1954 Corvette #3666 - "The Blue Devil" - Pennant Blue - restoration started
                1957 Corvette - FI 3 sp - Black and Silver

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                • Mike F.
                  Expired
                  • April 25, 2011
                  • 668

                  #9
                  Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                  Exhaust manifolds are raw cast iron and rust quickly and easily. If you "restore" them and add a coating to protect them (paint, calyx, etc.) you will receive a deduction during judging.

                  I'm guessing your goal of zero points deduction would be very difficult to maintain for any length of time. In theory I guess you could soak the manifolds in Evaporust for a day or two before judging and then bolt them on before you go.

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                  • Alan S.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1989
                    • 3416

                    #10
                    Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                    Hi Greg,
                    A good question, especially since you describe that you have very nice manifolds.
                    I believe it's VERY difficult to retain ALL the points for the entire exhaust system on a restored car, so don't be too frustrated by some deductions.
                    Make the best choices you can that fit into your approach to 'restoration'.
                    Regards,
                    Alan
                    71 Coupe, 350/270, 4 speed
                    Mason Dixon Chapter
                    Chapter Top Flight October 2011

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                    • Patrick H.
                      Beyond Control Poster
                      • December 1, 1989
                      • 11643

                      #11
                      Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                      Originally posted by Greg Andrade (55602)
                      Terry, You are correct, no points deduction. I have a set of very un-pitted manifolds with air tubes and check valves all needing a cosmetic clean-up, air tubes removed, and busted stud replaced (or all studs replaced).
                      You might want to have the tubes removed and the stud removed, then spray them with Pre-Lube 6 or a similar protectant. It's a heavy oil, which will burn when you first start the car, but they look great for a show car and the oil can be easily reapplied. No deductions have resulted for me so far in using this method. Any other paint, coating, etc will result in a finish deduction.
                      Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                      71 "deer modified" coupe
                      72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                      2008 coupe
                      Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                      • Mark D.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 1988
                        • 2151

                        #12
                        Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                        When I judge, if the manifolds don't have some discoloration (at least) or minor rust, it's a small deduction. Certainly, you should 'restore' them as you wish because it is, after all, your car. However you do them, as long as your happy, they will be right.
                        Unless you dig rust, your goal of zero deduction might be problematic. As a wise knower of all things Corvette (from deep in the Florida swamp) once told me..."if it ain't rusty, it ain't real."

                        May the rust be with you,

                        Kramden
                        Kramden

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                        • Bob J.
                          Very Frequent User
                          • December 1, 1977
                          • 714

                          #13
                          Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                          [QUOTE=Mark Donnally (13264);709868
                          As a wise knower of all things Corvette (from deep in the Florida swamp) once told me..."if it ain't rusty, it ain't real."

                          May the rust be with you,

                          Kramden[/QUOTE]

                          Kramden,
                          I think I know that fellow and you're right about him being wise beyond his age.
                          He spoke at our club gathering one year and the crowd was speechless.
                          Have you heard his thoughts on car shows ain't a beauty contest or the one on ugly cars are usually the most intersting?
                          May rust follow you through life closer than your shadow, Bob J

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                          • Mark D.
                            Extremely Frequent Poster
                            • June 30, 1988
                            • 2151

                            #14
                            Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                            One day, oh wise one, I shall ****** the pebble from your hand.

                            Until then...rust is a must!

                            ****** must be a bad word....OK, grab the pebble from your hand:-))
                            Kramden

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                            • Greg A.
                              Infrequent User
                              • October 24, 2012
                              • 12

                              #15
                              Re: Good resource for exhaust manifold restoration who is reliable and restoration wo

                              Gents,Thanks for the feedback. Are there any other resources you can recommend aside from Jerry M as I am hoping to contact several places before selecting one. Additionally in looking at Jerry M's website (Thank you ChrisS for the link ) and I see JerryM is coating the manifolds and several of you are suggesting a preservative which does not rust over time is a bad judging choice. I know my motor will be run - in on a dyno so it will heat the manifolds and hence rust should form in time. Other suggestions are very much appreciated I need busted flange studs removed and air-tubes removed without damaging the manifold (which is in fabulous shape) or the air-tubes and I know that I am not the qualified person to do this.GregGreg

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