Tag on a VERY early 1969, probably first day of production. See anything missing?
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Trim Tag no date.jpg
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I know very little about cars after '67, but I do not see a the build date. -
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I didn't want to spoil the surprise but now that bingo was called, this is stamped at the bottom right of the image. LOL!
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Now that you see the anomaly, has anyone seen this before in any year?Comment
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I haven't but I haven't seen that many Corvettes. But, I would bet this would be a real problem at judging, how do the judges handle this kind of problem?Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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I'm thinkin' at some point Dick may share how low the VIN is and possibly the rest of the story.Comment
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OH Reba and Dick. My my.
Yes I have, and a whole lot more too. You would not believe, but I have shared with Chuck & Stan as appropriate. That is one of the advantages that Ralph and I had when we used to prowl Corvette event parking lots, not to mention when The Corvette Homecommming and Bloomington Gold recognized the 25 year anniversaries.
You both know and many others here also know: If one restricts their research to the NCRS show field, one will get a distorted view of what a Corvette really was. Of course the same can be said of any make of automobile that has organized judging.TerryComment
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Sometimes folks forget that these cars were built by Human beings, and a minor issue may or may not get detected or fixed. About the closest thing to absolutes was if it was a Government requirement, emissions, safety, or the like.Bill Clupper #618Comment
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Bill, it is broader than you think.
You don't want to hear about the 1970 that never had the TCS harness connected to the M40. Still coiled up alongside the trans, and no "passing gear" either -- same connector. We put it together not too long ago for PV. Not trying to be contrary or cynical, Bill. You are right -- some/many things could be ignored, missed, or just flat missing. I once saw a late production 1970 with only parts of the NA9 system. As built it would never function, not all the parts were there. I figured they just ran out of parts and used what they had left. The car was not delivered new to California.
A 1300 mile 1970 with a big leak between the rad tank and core - poor solder job. It had a lot of a wax-like substance in the coolant and a low pressure (3 or 5 lbs IIRC) rad cap from the factory. Plant made a temp repair to get it out the door and let the dealer fix it.
QC was just not there and most of us were happy to have a new Corvette to drive. On the other hand most of the production worked well, and looked good for the materials of the time.
Oh and by the way. This is not the only no-date trim tag I have seen. Also one or two with no paint or no interior listed. One with the numbers for the day of the month, but no letter. The numbers were right for the build -- someone forgot to hit that key. Oh, a rubber bumper with a VIN for a convertible, but the car was a coupe -- or maybe it was the other way around. I forget the small details.
I know of several C4 ZR1s that got the standard windshield, and I stood and watched the robot install a standard windshield on a friend's 1990. I know where the car is -- still with the properly dated standard windshield and 3800 miles last time I saw it. It was in the parking lot at the St Charles Nationals, too but most of us walk right by the parking lot cars.
Feces occurs. No big deal.
It is not like now when the scanners read the bar code on the part, and each part is tagged for a specific job. Computers track all that stuff now.TerryComment
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Nobody would argue that people on the line made (and make) mistakes. We all know about that, but isn't it a real problem when you own or buy one that has something as important as a trim tag and/or VIN plate that has big mistakes?Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New MexicoComment
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I don't think it's quite that cut and dried. Since trim tag and VIN tag errors are known to have happened in all sorts of weird and wonderful ways, the error could be considered to be typical of those errors. The emphasis is always 'is this tag real GM issue and installed on the car it was born with'. I wouldn't worry too much.Comment
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I see nobody has really commented about how this car would be judged or what one would expect if a car like this were to show up at an event. Perhaps the car has already been judged and received an award. I don't know. At least one other participant is curious in this thread. It appears from one response by the thread starter he knows the owner of the car so I would like to know the outcome if it were judged. If no comment is available to protect the owner (which is understandable) then I would like the know the following:
I do not classify the deletion of the build date on a trim tag a minor issue at all? In fact it is a major issue when it comes to judging the car. It is major because it involves one of the items that a Chief Judge can decide on and BRAND the car from any judging. When I was an observer judge I saw a couple of cars branded and things like this happen and I like to know how it would be handled in this particluar situation with a trim tag presented in this condition.
What sort of paperwork, or documentation would someone need (if any) to be safe from any issue at the beginning of judging?
I do find the presence of assembly line mistakes interesting and thank you for presenting it to the forum, but it would be interesting to know how this would be handled if the car was being judged. This is one of several important topics at the NCRS. That being judging cars for flight awards. Thank you for your input.Comment
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