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  • Jim S.
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    • March 1, 1986
    • 1398

    P/W plug wires and correct positioning

    I just installed my new P/W wiring harness through the doors . On the right I have a yellow and light green, the left has green and white.

    Now I know that the AIM UPC- A-31 A-2 tells me exactly what to do . The problem is I have no idea what they are showing me ! Without showing me what is the top or bottom of the plug , the vertical and the horizontal slots can be interchanged quite easily ! To make matters worse it appears to me that they show the wires inserting from the front of the plug , not the rear.
    Am I correct in thinking that the picture show the front of the plug with the locking tab to the right side ??

    The one thing I do understand is the note that states, (paraphrasing a bit ) "when correctly wired everything works correctly" ........................... I would like that !!!!
    Can someone explain it to me in short simple words , or is it much ado about nothing ?

    Secondly , when I removed all that stuff way back when , I bought a new motor for the drivers side and installed it . I now see it has no ground terminal attached to the motor as does the original one . Am I correct in assuming that the ground wire can be attached to any part of the motor I can find a screw to ?


    Jim
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  • Jim S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • March 1, 1986
    • 1398

    #2
    Re: P/W plug wires and correct positioning

    Maybe I should rephrase this a bit .

    Above I stated " Without showing me what is the top or bottom of the plug , the vertical and the horizontal slots can be interchanged quite easily ! "

    The reason that matters is , while it is easy to make either wire the vertical or horizontal while inserting it into the plug , the plug only enters the motor one way . So as I see it, I can be correct, or 180 out on either one or both plugs .

    So what I am asking is does this matter , which I assume it does , and if so, how I do I do it correctly the first time .There is not a lot of room in the door to begin with , and even less once everything is put back, so this is one of those items I wouldn't want to have to redo after completion !

    Thanks,

    Jim

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    • Larry M.
      Expired
      • December 1, 1986
      • 541

      #3
      Re: P/W plug wires and correct positioning

      Jim,

      I have zero practical experience with your situation; but it seems to me that if the connectors were mated together incorrectly, that the window would move down when the button was pushed up, and vice-versa.

      If that in fact is the case, is it possible to do some sort of 'bench test' using a 12 volt source and some lead wires to determine the correct connection? It may involve using a test light to see which wire 'lights up' when the button is pushed up, and which terminal on the motor should accept that wire.

      Also, even with my limited understanding of circuitry, I don't see an issue with the ground wire attached to the motor case.

      Good luck with your project.

      Larry

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      • Marco H.
        Expired
        • March 1, 2002
        • 218

        #4
        Re: P/W plug wires and correct positioning

        Jim,

        Hold the plug connector like the one on the right side in your picture:
        LH Door: DK GREEN in vertical/upper slot - WHITE (black with white tracer) in horizontal/lower slot.
        RH Door: YELLOW (black with yellow tracer) in vertical/upper slot - LIGHT GREEN (black with lt. green tracer) in horizontal/lower slot.

        I suggest to attach the ground tab where it is located from the factory since the wire has a given length and you want to make sure it is out of the way of moving parts!

        Hope this helps,

        Marco

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        • Jim S.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • March 1, 1986
          • 1398

          #5
          Re: P/W plug wires and correct positioning

          Larry,

          Thanks for the reply. The test light is a Good Idea , but I will have to think about whether or not that will work. I think the window switch in encased so it might be hard to know witch color wire I am working with . But Maybe ! I will look at it tomorrow .

          Jim
          Last edited by Jim S.; June 5, 2014, 11:50 PM.

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          • Jim S.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 1986
            • 1398

            #6
            Re: P/W plug wires and correct positioning

            Marco ,

            Thanks Pal !

            Just what i needed to hear , and exactly what the AIM was saying , but I was too stupid to realize until reading you reply . I don't even have to worry about the Locking tab position , front or back of plug , etc.etc. All I have to do is just position it so it's vertical slot over horizontal slot , as opposed to side by side , or horizontal over vertical ,and I have it correctly positioned , and can then place the correct wires in the correct slots , which you also confirmed !

            Also good point on the ground wire in re moving parts .

            Thanks again !

            Jim
            Last edited by Jim S.; June 5, 2014, 11:43 PM.

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