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  • Brandon T.
    Very Frequent User
    • October 23, 2008
    • 872

    58 leaf spings

    Is the date code visible when installed on the car?
  • John H.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • December 1, 1997
    • 16513

    #2
    Re: 58 leaf spings

    Originally posted by Brandon Thompson (49614)
    Is the date code visible when installed on the car?
    Brandon -

    Nope - it's covered by the spring retainer plate.

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    • Brandon T.
      Very Frequent User
      • October 23, 2008
      • 872

      #3
      Re: 58 leaf spings

      Thanks John, the ones on my 58 are 5 leaf and the small bottom leaf is not grooved. I think I seen where you posted that all the small leafs do not have a groove. Is that correct ?

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      • John H.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • December 1, 1997
        • 16513

        #4
        Re: 58 leaf spings

        Originally posted by Brandon Thompson (49614)
        Thanks John, the ones on my 58 are 5 leaf and the small bottom leaf is not grooved. I think I seen where you posted that all the small leafs do not have a groove. Is that correct ?
        I think so, but a '56-'62 guy should confirm.

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        • Thomas H.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • August 31, 2005
          • 1058

          #5
          Re: 58 leaf spings

          Brandon,

          To my knowledge (FWIW), the rear springs on a 58 should be 4 leaf. All of the leafs have the groove. My 60 has the original springs and they are this way. I have two other sets, one a 59 and one a 58 (my 58 had aftermarket springs when I got it) and those are also four leaf with grooves. As for the date code, depending on where it is stamped on the bottom leaf, some of it "may" be visible when installed.

          Tom
          1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
          1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
          1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
          1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
          1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
          2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

          Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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          • Brandon T.
            Very Frequent User
            • October 23, 2008
            • 872

            #6
            Re: 58 leaf spings

            Thanks Thomas, I just ordered some off ebay that has date codes for a 60. I plan on putting them on my 58 I sure hope they are stamped where the date don't show when the spring retainer plate is installed. I guess I should have done more research before ordering these that came off a 60.

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            • Larry C.
              Very Frequent User
              • April 1, 1980
              • 279

              #7
              Re: 58 leaf spings

              On my 1962 with original springs, the year "2" is stamped about 2.75" fwd of the center bolt that holds the springs together so when the bottom shock plate is installed the "2" will be visible but somewhat difficult to see if you crawl under the car and look up.

              Larry

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              • Brandon T.
                Very Frequent User
                • October 23, 2008
                • 872

                #8
                Re: 58 leaf spings

                Thanks Larry, I will just have to wait until the springs I bought gets here and see if the year shows with the spring retainer plate installed. The same day I bought the ones for a 60 somebody put some on ebay for a 58 that would be correct for my car. That is the way my luck goes.

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                • Dennis C.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • June 30, 2002
                  • 884

                  #9
                  Re: 58 leaf spings

                  I think if I was judging a car with a solid bottom leaf I would be looking at everything very closely. I don't recall ever seeing an original car without a grooved bottom leaf.

                  Most of the time the full date is not visible, however, every once in a while the stamping can be seen. I suspect there was no hard and fast rule about the stamp location, but who knows.

                  Dennis

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                  • John H.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • December 1, 1997
                    • 16513

                    #10
                    Re: 58 leaf spings

                    Originally posted by Dennis Crupi (38211)
                    I think if I was judging a car with a solid bottom leaf I would be looking at everything very closely. I don't recall ever seeing an original car without a grooved bottom leaf.
                    Dennis -

                    Note in post #3 that Brandon indicated he had FIVE-leaf springs, not the standard 4-leaf springs; the short bottom leaf on the factory 5-leaf spring wasn't grooved.

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                    • Thomas H.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 2005
                      • 1058

                      #11
                      Re: 58 leaf spings

                      Originally posted by John Hinckley (29964)
                      Dennis -

                      Note in post #3 that Brandon indicated he had FIVE-leaf springs, not the standard 4-leaf springs; the short bottom leaf on the factory 5-leaf spring wasn't grooved.
                      John,

                      Mind you, I have only been "playing" with C1's (58-60) for a couple years so this may sound dumb........... What application / years did C1's use a 5 leaf spring? I only have the 58-60 guide and it makes no reference to a 5 leaf spring only a 4 leaf (grooved, of course). Were they used on 61 and up?

                      Tom
                      1958, 283/245, White/red - Top Flight, October 2016
                      1960, Black/black, 283/230 4sp
                      1966, Black/Red, 327/350 4sp w/AC
                      1967, 427/390, 4sp, Goodwood Green, Coupe
                      1971 LS5, 4sp, coupe, Bridgehampton Blue
                      2007 Z06, Lemans Blue

                      Newsletter Editor, Delaware Valley Chapter

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                      • Gary C.
                        Administrator
                        • October 1, 1982
                        • 17657

                        #12
                        Re: 58 leaf spings

                        Brandon,

                        IMHO a non groved bottom spring indicates it was probably added to compensate for sagging rear springs, which was a common practice.

                        What type of bands are on the springs? Post a photo of the bands.

                        All factory Heavy Duty C1 5 leaf springs as far as I know had groves in all of the leaves.

                        Gary
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                        • John H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1997
                          • 16513

                          #13
                          Re: 58 leaf spings

                          Originally posted by Gary Chesnut (5895)
                          Brandon,

                          IMHO a non groved bottom spring indicates it was probably added to compensate for sagging rear springs, which was a common practice.

                          What type of bands are on the springs? Post a photo of the bands.

                          All factory Heavy Duty C1 5 leaf springs as far as I know had groves in all of the leaves.

                          Gary
                          ....
                          Gary -

                          You're closer to it than I am, but I'm going from the late Dale Pearman's notes from his handout book from our 2002 Bloomington Workshop presentation on the '58-'62 Corvette Chassis:

                          "The RPO 684 option used a five-leaf spring (GM #3748143) with the first four (longest) leaves grooved as with standard springs, but the shortest bottom leaf was flat (not grooved). This spring assembly did not use spring liners and was assembled with six wrap-around 1/4-inch thick metal clamps. A replacement five-leaf spring was sold over the counter from 1960 to about 1972 which differed significantly in appearance from the production spring, but it bore the same part number."

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                          • Gary C.
                            Administrator
                            • October 1, 1982
                            • 17657

                            #14
                            Re: 58 leaf spings

                            John,

                            Yes, that's what Dale's said. However, the 5 leaf RPO springs were available OTC until 1966 and I've personally seen 1963 dated 5 leaf RPO springs. Know for sure the 1957 RPO springs bottom leaf was groved.

                            I've not tracked the 58 to 62 RPO springs, so it's up to the 58 up C1 guys to figure that out for sure.

                            Gary
                            ....
                            NCRS Texas Chapter
                            https://www.ncrstexas.org/

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                            • Loren S.
                              Very Frequent User
                              • November 1, 2002
                              • 172

                              #15
                              Re: 58 leaf spings

                              Original:




                              1963 over the counter?:

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