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  • Peter S.
    Very Frequent User
    • March 28, 2012
    • 327

    Radiator Fan Finish

    Is a finish deduct made if a radiator fan is over-restored, or fully painted? It's noted in the JG that the coverage is poor, and it appears my fan shows this poor coverage well.

    There are only 6 points for both the fan and the clutch, and I doubt a whole point would be deducted, but anyone giving out dots?



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  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43199

    #2
    Re: Radiator Fan Finish

    Originally posted by Peter Stout (54749)
    Is a finish deduct made if a radiator fan is over-restored, or fully painted? It's noted in the JG that the coverage is poor, and it appears my fan shows this poor coverage well.

    There are only 6 points for both the fan and the clutch, and I doubt a whole point would be deducted, but anyone giving out dots?



    Peter------


    I don't think that all the bare areas of this fan were that way from day-one. In any event, the vast majority of fans I've seen received complete paint coverage.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Don H.
      Moderator
      • June 16, 2009
      • 2244

      #3
      Re: Radiator Fan Finish

      I think you should expect some condition deduction, not dots.

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      • Peter S.
        Very Frequent User
        • March 28, 2012
        • 327

        #4
        Re: Radiator Fan Finish

        Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
        Peter------


        I don't think that all the bare areas of this fan were that way from day-one. In any event, the vast majority of fans I've seen received complete paint coverage.
        Hi Joe,

        The front of the fan was well covered, and the JG noted the typical poor coverage. This is why I assumed this is how it was originally painted on the back.

        Originally posted by Don Hooper (50543)
        I think you should expect some condition deduction, not dots.
        Don, this is before I restore it.

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        • Peter S.
          Very Frequent User
          • March 28, 2012
          • 327

          #5
          Re: Radiator Fan Finish

          I would still like others opinions as to the deductions (if any) for an over-restored or full coverage paint on the fan.

          I would not mind hearing other opinions of the original/typical paint coverage. Pictures would be a bonus.

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          • Don H.
            Moderator
            • June 16, 2009
            • 2244

            #6
            Re: Radiator Fan Finish

            Peter
            the term "over restored" is normally used when judging the appearance of exterior paint finish of the car. I don't think you see it used to describe individual parts. If you were to apply a much heavier coating of black paint to your fan than is considered typical factory production, you might loose 20% of originality points for something like "excessive paint finish" or however the judges chose to describe it. The finish of the part is worth 1/5 of the total originality points for that part. If the fan blade is judged on the same line as the fan clutch, then the two parts would split the total originality points for that line, making the fan finish worth 1/10 of the total points. If as you say the blade and the clutch only have 6 originality points between them, you should expect to perhaps see a comment for heavy paint, but probably not a point deducted. No matter how you look at it, the amount of paint on the blade is a very very minor issue.

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            • Patrick H.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • December 1, 1989
              • 11616

              #7
              Re: Radiator Fan Finish

              Excessive thickness of the paint, or use of powdercoating, would bring a deduction.

              Full coverage would not.

              Go ahead and paint it. It would only be 1 point at most, and to compare Operations items are 25 points each.
              If you're worried enough to be on here asking about a 1 point deduction then you've already shown that you're conscientious enough not to put on too much paint.

              Patrick
              Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
              71 "deer modified" coupe
              72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
              2008 coupe
              Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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              • Peter S.
                Very Frequent User
                • March 28, 2012
                • 327

                #8
                Re: Radiator Fan Finish

                I appreciate the responses. I do understand CDCIF and point breakdowns, as well as how points are allotted. I want to know for my own edification as well. I'd like to judge the '68-'69 years one day, and have found restoring my '69 to the highest regard of our standard (or attempt to) is the best way to learn.

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                • Patrick H.
                  Beyond Control Poster
                  • December 1, 1989
                  • 11616

                  #9
                  Re: Radiator Fan Finish

                  Originally posted by Peter Stout (54749)
                  I appreciate the responses. I do understand CDCIF and point breakdowns, as well as how points are allotted. I want to know for my own edification as well. I'd like to judge the '68-'69 years one day, and have found restoring my '69 to the highest regard of our standard (or attempt to) is the best way to learn.
                  I have not seen fans of more recent GM manufacture that had bare spots or thin paint. They were all painted with full coverage about as you'd expect. No bare spots, but the paint was thin with regard to overall thickness, not with regard to coverage.
                  I do not expect the paint to be so thick that you can't easily see the part number, date code, rivet details, etc.
                  Your fan shows wear of paint, but if you look the paint is generally thin (with regard to measurable thickness) and details underneath are easily seen.
                  I think you could post 100 photos of varying paint coverage as examples, but in reality it's more like "you know it when you see it," kind of like photos of other things.

                  Again, no one will ever deduct for full coverage. However, despite what Don notes, there are very good reasons one could deduct one (1) point for powdercoating a fan blade even though there are only 6 points total for the fan and clutch.

                  Good luck with your fan.
                  Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                  71 "deer modified" coupe
                  72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                  2008 coupe
                  Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                  • Peter S.
                    Very Frequent User
                    • March 28, 2012
                    • 327

                    #10
                    Re: Radiator Fan Finish

                    Patrick,

                    Thanks for the detail. Very good info, and I will take it all into consideration.

                    Don,

                    I very much appreciate your point of view. Thanks again gentlemen.

                    Peter

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