65 brake lines 9 stripped or not?

[Terry M.]

Re: 65 brake lines 9 stripped or not?

Terry,

I can't find any mention of brake hoses in my 6th edition of the JRF, which admittedly is a some years old.

I do find the following in the latest edition of the '66 TIM&JG:

Brake Hoses
Front brake hose fittings are round starting at the caliper and have a machined recessed middle section followed by a hex shaped area and a single longitudinal crimping. Original hoses have been observed with a red/orange/white “tracer" running the length of the hose rubber. There is no D.O.T. writing on any brake hose.

That text does suggest to me that brake hoses are still judged for originality. Also, I interpret the "red/orange/white" tracer as meaning the stripe for '66 can be red, or orange, or white, as opposed to a mixture or sequence of the three. I think if a lawyer were to read the description in the '66 TIM&JG he/she would tell you that the wording does not state that hoses without tracers are not possible. Nor does it state that hoses with other colors are not possible.

Gary

I have encountered lawyers, and those who thought they were lawyers, in my time as NTL. Some are very nice and pleasant people, others not so much -- just about like any other profession. I don't think the authors of the 1966 TIM&JG were writing their manual for lawyers. I know those of us who wrote the 1968-69 and 1970-72 were not. If one chooses to parse the words therein that finely it is at your own risk.

It is obvious to me that the 1966 folks judge rubber brake lines. 1968-69 and 1970-72 do not deduct for them, which does not mean there is no comment for replacement brake hoses. So it goes.

I can remember a paragraph in the old Judging instructions (it might have been before it was called a Judging Reference Manual) that dealt with safety items. Seat belts in cars not so originally equipped was in there as, I believe, were the brake hoses. I also remember a sentence or two about added alarm systems. All of that is not in the 8th Edition JRM (and as you found wasn’t in earlier editions either) and apparently is deferred to the specific year TIM&J. This gives each NTL more control over how the cars in his class are judged. Those (the change to allow individual NTLs more control) are policy decisions way above my pay grade, and I guess it happened while I was not regularly attending NTL meetings. As the lawyers would say: It is de minimus anyway.