1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

[Dino L.]

How do you remove the cylinder assembly from the door?image.jpg

[Mike M.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

open glovebox door and locate the small hole that would be on the pass side of the lock (rear of glovebox) . its at about 3 o'clock as i recall. straighten a paper clip , insert in the small hole of the cylinder. thats all i can remember about the procedure but its a start. good luck. mike

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

open glovebox door and locate the small hole that would be on the pass side of the lock (rear of glovebox) . its at about 3 o'clock as i recall. straighten a paper clip , insert in the small hole of the cylinder. thats all i can remember about the procedure but its a start. good luck. mike

Guys,

I'm not an expert on '62 glove box locks, but I'm pretty sure that hole on the back side is a blind, threaded hole, which has nothing to do with removing the lock case. I believe the lock is removed by unscrewing a part on the front side that screws into the case. The part the unscrews has a large internal hex shape, which is how one applies a torque. Attached is a photo showing the two lock parts separated.

Gary
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[Mike M.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

gary: ya gotta get the cylinder out before u can take a large allen wrench to remove the part on the front. no way to get the allen wrench into the bezel without removing the cylinder first. mike

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Mike,

If the cylinder (push button) in not yet removed, I assume it comes out the same way as the lock push button for '63 and later come out, which is via the use of a bent over paper clip inserted in the small rectangular slot on the side, near the front of the lock that is used to sequentially depress the spring-loaded retainer plate and then the four tumbler/wafer plates.

Gary

[Dino L.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Thanks guys, I should be able to get from here.

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Dino,

So, was your original question about removing the push button?

Gary

[Dino L.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Yes Gary, trying to remove the cylinder to access that hex part to unscrew it......the photo of the three pieces helped....I presume I put the key in the cylinder, depress the release and pull it out, put in an oversize allen key and un-scew it....

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Yes Gary, trying to remove the cylinder to access that hex part to unscrew it......the photo of the three pieces helped....I presume I put the key in the cylinder, depress the release and pull it out, put in an oversize allen key and un-scew it....

Dino,

I can tell you for '63 and newer glove box/storage locks that the key cannot be inserted while you are trying to remove the lock core. If the key is inserted you won't be able to depress any of the wafers in order to clear the bezel.

Gary

[John H.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Try this - from the list at the bottom of the page:

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthread.php?63190-C1-Glove-Box-Lock-Cylinder-Removal

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

Try this - from the list at the bottom of the page:

https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...linder-Removal

John,

The instructions you provide the link to say to insert the key into the lock and then depress the retainer plate in the rectangular hole on the side of the case. Is that really correct for C1 glove locks? For C2 and C3 the key cannot be inserted when removing the cylinder because the key prevents the retainer plate from being pushed down far enough to clear the bezel. One needs to have the key removed in order to remove the cylinder for C2 and C3 glove/storage locks.

Gary

[John H.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

John,

The instructions you provide the link to say to insert the key into the lock and then depress the retainer plate in the rectangular hole on the side of the case. Is that really correct for C1 glove locks? For C2 and C3 the key cannot be inserted when removing the cylinder because the key prevents the retainer plate from being pushed down far enough to clear the bezel. One needs to have the key removed in order to remove the cylinder for C2 and C3 glove/storage locks.

Gary

Gary -

Here's a recent summary of how to remove the lock (from Dave Zuberer), and a photo of the tool (made from octagonal bar stock welded to a socket) we used in the plant to install/remove the threaded bezel that retains the lock case to the door. DO NOT install the lock cylinder upside-down, or you'll never get it out, as there won't be a hole through which to depress the rentention tab on the cylinder.


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[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

John,

In my reading of Dave's summary he does not explicitly mention whether the key can be inserted when the pointed tool is used to depress the retainer plate thru the small hole to remove the push button. As I said in my previous posting, for C2 and C3 locks, the key cannot be inserted when removing the push button. So, my question is, can the key be inserted when removing the push button from a '56-62 glove lock? If not, then I think some people are going struggle trying to accomplish something with the key inserted unless the push button removal step is clarified.

Gary

[Dino L.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

I removed the lock, the lock cylinder has 4spring loaded wafers, on mine the first and last wafer sticks up past the cylinder barrel....I believe the first wafer on every lock sticks up. I put a paper clip in the opening on the cylinder housing located in the 12 o'clock position, I grabbed the protruding push button barrel and rotated it back and forth as I pushed the paper clip in.....the cylinder came out 3/4 of the way, I then reinserted the clip to depress the last wafer......the lock cylinder pulled out. All of this done while the key was not inserted. Thanks to Gary Beaupre for all your help!

[Gary B.]

Re: 1962 glovebox lock cylinder removal

I removed the lock, the lock cylinder has 4spring loaded wafers, on mine the first and last wafer sticks up past the cylinder barrel....I believe the first wafer on every lock sticks up. I put a paper clip in the opening on the cylinder housing located in the 12 o'clock position, I grabbed the protruding push button barrel and rotated it back and forth as I pushed the paper clip in.....the cylinder came out 3/4 of the way, I then reinserted the clip to depress the last wafer......the lock cylinder pulled out. All of this done while the key was not inserted. Thanks to Gary Beaupre for all your help!

Dino,

Thanks for the clarification. I general, one will have to depress 1 retainer plate and all 4 tumbler wafers, so if you only had to push on a total of 2 out of 5 you were just lucky. The first plate in a glove box lock cylinder isn't a key tumbler, it's just a spring loaded plate that must be depressed as step # 1 in removing the cylinder. See my attached photo of a C2/C3 glove box lock cylinder.

Also, in most cases, the lock does not have to be in the unlocked position to remove the cylinder, since (in most cases) there are two rectangular windows, 90 degrees apart, that one can use to access the plate and tumblers and the plate/tumblers will be visible in one of those two holes no matter whether locked or unlocked.

The qualifier "in most cases" refers to some lock cases that have only one rectangular window, and in that situation the lock typically needs to be in the unlocked position in order for the plate and tumblers to be accessible with a tool to be depressed. But I've only run across that situation one time out of probably 25 glove box locks that I've worked on, and that one time was a service replacement lock, not an original production line lock.

Gary
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