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  • Lynn L.
    1953-55 Team Leader
    • February 1, 2000
    • 162

    1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

    photo 1.jpgEngine pad on 65 fuel car for critique.
  • John S.
    Very Frequent User
    • May 4, 2008
    • 424

    #2
    Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

    Lynn,

    I am by no means an expert on stamp pads. I have seen a few though, both good and "bad". I also own a 65 fuel car with the original motor. All of that being said, I like the pad and believe it to be original. The "G" is a little funny but the guys doing these were not perfect! Hopefully we can get some of the guys with much more experience here to chime in.

    On another note, I have access to Jim Gessner's 65 Fuel Injection survey and I looked up the vin. He does not have that vin listed in the survey. There is however a few cars with the same Flint motor build date of F0618HG. In looking throught the survey you can see that they seemed to build the fuelie motors in batches at Flint. As an example my engines build date is the same as 10 other cars in the survey. Is it a hard and fast rule? I doubt it. It does seem to trend that way though.

    If this is your car or you know the owner you should get in touch with Jim so he can get the car in the survey. Search his name on the Internet or in here and you can get in touch with him. He knows and loves these cars.

    John
    John Seeley
    67 Black/Teal
    300 hp 3 speed coupe
    65 Maroon/Black
    35k mile Fuelie coupe

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    • Dan H.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1977
      • 1369

      #3
      Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

      Lynn, if at all possible, see if you can see the transmission stamp, should be identicle to motor stamp vin, it was the same stamp used for both.
      1964 Red FI Coupe, DUNTOV '09
      Drove the 64 over 5000 miles to three Regionals and the San Jose National, one dust storm and 40 lbs of bugs!

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      • Duke W.
        Beyond Control Poster
        • January 1, 1993
        • 15672

        #4
        Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

        Originally posted by John Seeley (48993)
        Lynn,

        In looking through the survey you can see that they seemed to build the fuelie motors in batches at Flint. As an example my engines build date is the same as 10 other cars in the survey. Is it a hard and fast rule? I doubt it. It does seem to trend that way though.

        John
        No doubt all engines were built in batches of the same configuration. At the rate the assembly line ran all the parts had to be queued up at all the stations and the operator installed what was in the parts bin. There wasn't time to determine which crankshaft was required as the blocks moved down the line, and from a production engineering perspective one would not want all those opportunities for error.

        The only parts "selection" was the proper rod/piston assembly based on the number stamped on the deck. There were four or five different piston size groups to get the piston-wall clearance in the proper range.

        Low volume engines may have only been built once every month or two for less than one full shift, which is why there is usually a longer average lag to the car build date from the engine assembly date on low volume engine options. With only 771 L-84 options in '65 St. Louis only installed an average of about 3-4 per day.

        Duke

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        • Lynn L.
          1953-55 Team Leader
          • February 1, 2000
          • 162

          #5
          Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

          photo 2.jpgphoto 2.jpgtransmission stamp

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          • Tim G.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • March 1, 1990
            • 1375

            #6
            Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

            I know that car, the pad is beautiful as is the transmission and rear. Casting date is the same as the build date of the engine. I sent Jim Gessner all the info, it was a new fuelie for his survey.

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            • Tim G.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • March 1, 1990
              • 1375

              #7
              Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

              I came close to purchasing this one two weeks ago, I have two '67's I'm working on now, so I really wasn't in a position to take on another Corvette. It had nothing to do with the car, I really liked it. Replacement warranty plate issued by the zone office in about 1965, but it has all the vitals on it. Very, very cool car that is close to the last of the fuelies.

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              • Lynn L.
                1953-55 Team Leader
                • February 1, 2000
                • 162

                #8
                Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

                Appreciate feedback, new to midyear corvettes, Nassau Blue, Black leather interior, original soft top, hard top, Butt... No vin stamp on fuel injection unit. I had heard that not all were vin stamped ?

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                • Mike M.
                  NCRS Past President
                  • May 31, 1974
                  • 8383

                  #9
                  Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

                  lynn some 65 fi plenums that were installed in st louis in dec 64 and jan of 65 didn't have the vin derivative stamped on the plenum. i believe we've documented about 7 such 65 fi corvettes without stamping on pleneum that were built in that time frame. i've got one of the 7. mike

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                  • Lynn L.
                    1953-55 Team Leader
                    • February 1, 2000
                    • 162

                    #10
                    Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

                    Thanks Mike, I would guess factory replacement since no vin stamp?

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                    • Mike M.
                      NCRS Past President
                      • May 31, 1974
                      • 8383

                      #11
                      Re: 1965 engine pad review, fuel car?

                      no, i doubt the vin-less plenums were assembly line replacement(as the plenums were stamped in st louis). i am guessing the dude responsible for stamping the vins on plenums had a hangover the couple of months vin-less plenums are showing up. regards,mike

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