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  • Perry M.
    Very Frequent User
    • December 31, 1976
    • 325

    Help with guage lenses

    Can someone please tell me how the odometer lense is installed on a '63 cluster? I know the guage lenses install with the concave side facing toward the driver but cannot figure out the tapered odometer lense. I purchased the anti rattle kit from LIC and it included a large foam rubber piece that I don't remember taking off when I disassembled my cluster, only 2 small/thin strips that I believe were glued onto the lense. Can anyone please advise as how to install?
  • Russ S.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • April 30, 1982
    • 2160

    #2
    Re: Help with guage lenses

    The concave side of the lens (if it is the same as 66 and I am sure it is) goes toward the front of the car-not toward the driver. All the other gauges are the same.
    Originally posted by Perry Mitchell (1239)
    Can someone please tell me how the odometer lense is installed on a '63 cluster? I know the guage lenses install with the concave side facing toward the driver but cannot figure out the tapered odometer lense. I purchased the anti rattle kit from LIC and it included a large foam rubber piece that I don't remember taking off when I disassembled my cluster, only 2 small/thin strips that I believe were glued onto the lense. Can anyone please advise as how to install?

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    • Joe R.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • July 31, 1976
      • 4547

      #3
      Re: Help with guage lenses

      Perry,

      The 63 and 64 cluster does not use the foam piece around the trip odometer. It is only used on 65-67 clusters. There is no Odometer lens but there is a plastic lens for the Trip Odometer. It is installed behind the retainer with the other lens (speedo, tach, small gauges).

      JR

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      • Jim S.
        Expired
        • March 13, 2013
        • 360

        #4
        Re: Help with guage lenses

        Originally posted by Russ Steinhaus (5540)
        The concave side of the lens (if it is the same as 66 and I am sure it is) goes toward the front of the car-not toward the driver. All the other gauges are the same.
        Russ, The concave side is toward the driver. To say it differently, the center of the lens 'dishes' inward toward the dash.

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        • Perry M.
          Very Frequent User
          • December 31, 1976
          • 325

          #5
          Re: Help with guage lenses

          Originally posted by Joe Ray (1011)
          Perry,

          The 63 and 64 cluster does not use the foam piece around the trip odometer. It is only used on 65-67 clusters. There is no Odometer lens but there is a plastic lens for the Trip Odometer. It is installed behind the retainer with the other lens (speedo, tach, small gauges).

          JR
          So what holds the TRIP odometer in place since the retainer doesn't contact the lense? Are the two small rubber strips glued onto the bezel and then the lense is glued onto them? And why is the lens beveled or sloped? No matter how I set it in there, there is a gap between the lense and the cluster which would allow dirt to get in.

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          • Joe R.
            Extremely Frequent Poster
            • July 31, 1976
            • 4547

            #6
            Re: Help with guage lenses

            Perry,

            Here are three pictures. The lens is not held by the trip odometer at all. It is held by the bezel that holds all the lens in place. There is no glue involved. And no it is not sealed and nothing else is sealed either. On the second picture I did not add the little black rubber strips but they are needed to keep it from moving.

            JRDSCN3985.jpgDSCN3986.jpgDSCN3987.jpg

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            • Perry M.
              Very Frequent User
              • December 31, 1976
              • 325

              #7
              Re: Help with guage lenses

              Thanks Joe for your reply. Can you tell me if the two small rubber strips are between the lens and the bezel or between the lens and the lens retainer? Also, I couldn't make it out in your 2nd picture whether the flat side of the lens is against the bezel and the side with the two ridges with nubs is against the lens retainer or the other way around.

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              • Russ S.
                Extremely Frequent Poster
                • April 30, 1982
                • 2160

                #8
                Re: Help with guage lenses

                Jim, That is what I meant. I guess it's difference in language. The way I look at it is it dishes forward so it is concaved in. E=Jim Sfetko (58204);698489]Russ, The concave side is toward the driver. To say it differently, the center of the lens 'dishes' inward toward the dash.[/QUOTE]

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                • Harry S.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • July 31, 2002
                  • 5246

                  #9
                  Re: Help with guage lenses

                  Concave = inward, Convex = outward.

                  You can't believe how upset a 64 owner was when I deducted points for the lenses being in back wards. He was with his restorer. The owner said, that why I can read the gauges. All the restorer saw was lots of unpaid hours to fix the problem he caused.


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                  • Joe R.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • July 31, 1976
                    • 4547

                    #10
                    Re: Help with guage lenses

                    Perry,

                    The two small rubber strips are between the bezel and the lens. The Lens with the two ridge side goes against the rubber strips. The smooth side of the lens is against the retainer. That's the way GM did it and for some reason it works.

                    JR

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                    • Richard M.
                      Super Moderator
                      • August 31, 1988
                      • 11299

                      #11
                      Re: Help with guage lenses

                      ....and the first time I restored my '63 cluster, guess what I did. I put the new lenses in backwards.....ie convex. Thankfully when I posted pics of it here, someone caught it before I put it back in the dash. I felt so stupid.

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