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  • Steven S.
    Frequent User
    • June 27, 2013
    • 86

    Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

    Hello again. Have been shopping for a 68 or 69 L89 recently, and came upon this car. I am very suspicious of the stamping on this pad, as I do not see what should look like factory broach marks.

    Can some of the more experienced people on this board please offer me your opinions as well? Below is the photo I have been sent by the owner of the car.

    Thank you in advance,

    Steve
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  • Edward J.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • September 15, 2008
    • 6942

    #2
    Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

    Steve, there must be hundreds of stamps in the archives, I am not a expert but it looks fine to me. If you go to the C3 registry there should be some others also.
    New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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    • Peter L.
      Expired
      • August 31, 1995
      • 26

      #3
      Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

      The broach marks appear to be correct.

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      • Steven S.
        Frequent User
        • June 27, 2013
        • 86

        #4
        Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

        photo 1 copy 2.jpg
        Here is a larger photo of the pad only. Am I the only one seeing the broach marks not perfectly parallel? To me, the stamp looks way too fresh, and the broach marks look strange. Maybe just my bad eyes, with one cataract? lol

        Thanks again,

        Steve

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        • Michael J.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • January 27, 2009
          • 7122

          #5
          Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

          You might want to compare it to the one here:
          https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...s-in-the-heads
          Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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          • Steven S.
            Frequent User
            • June 27, 2013
            • 86

            #6
            Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

            Hi Michael. Thank you for that link. I had looked at that post a few days ago, and the VIN side of the stamp looks similar, but the one I have posted looks like a fresh stamp, IMHO.

            I have not found any 1968 BB stamps that have the Number 1 stamped on the left side, and wanted to make a comparison of the digit 1 which looks like the letter I in the date on my post. Any thoughts?

            Thanks,

            Steve

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            • Michael J.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • January 27, 2009
              • 7122

              #7
              Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

              I would also say the broach marks look fine. As for the "I" or 1 on the engine suffix date, I am no expert on '68s, but the many '67s I have seen had much shorter tops and bottoms to the "I" than yours. But, that may or may not mean anything, as the stamps could have been different in '68 than '67. Maybe some '68 "I" experts will weigh in.
              Big Tanks In the High Mountains of New Mexico

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              • Dick W.
                Former NCRS Director Region IV
                • June 30, 1985
                • 10483

                #8
                Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                Originally posted by Steven Sperrazza (12077)
                Hello again. Have been shopping for a 68 or 69 L89 recently, and came upon this car. I am very suspicious of the stamping on this pad, as I do not see what should look like factory broach marks.

                Can some of the more experienced people on this board please offer me your opinions as well? Below is the photo I have been sent by the owner of the car.

                Thank you in advance,

                Steve
                Nah! Moving right along
                Dick Whittington

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                • Edward J.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • September 15, 2008
                  • 6942

                  #9
                  Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                  Steve, There are a few restoration engine companies out there that use the original engine stamps used at the factory. and it may very well be. there is a small detail I did not pick-up on the first glance when I looked at it, It appears that there are some marks on the water pump like a belt sander or milling marks. There has been some remarks about belt sanders being used to replicate the broach marks like the factory.
                  New England chapter member, 63 Convert. 327/340- Chapter/Regional/national Top Flight, 72 coupe- chapter and regional Top Flight.

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                  • Paul O.
                    Frequent User
                    • August 31, 1990
                    • 1716

                    #10
                    Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                    Agree with Dick and ED if you enlarge the photo the broach marking in several places are at angles to normal broaching lines. It appears as if a sander was used. If you had a higher resolution photo you would see more imperfections in those broach marks I would think.

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                    • Patrick B.
                      Extremely Frequent Poster
                      • August 31, 1985
                      • 1995

                      #11
                      Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                      I would question the width of the "I" character in the Tonawanda stamp. Wide I's are common on Flint engines but Tonawanda "I"s are typically narrow.

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                      • Kenneth B.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • August 31, 1984
                        • 2089

                        #12
                        Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                        Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                        Steve, There are a few restoration engine companies out there that use the original engine stamps used at the factory. and it may very well be. there is a small detail I did not pick-up on the first glance when I looked at it, It appears that there are some marks on the water pump like a belt sander or milling marks. There has been some remarks about belt sanders being used to replicate the broach marks like the factory.
                        Think about it. You wouldn't try to replicate the broach marks with the water pump & heads on the block. Water pumps had the flash ground off the parting line at the foundry & many had these grind marks.
                        65 350 TI CONV 67 J56 435 CONV,67,390/AIR CONV,70 454/air CONV,
                        What A MAN WON'T SPEND TO GIVE HIS ASS A RIDE

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                        • Dick W.
                          Former NCRS Director Region IV
                          • June 30, 1985
                          • 10483

                          #13
                          Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                          Originally posted by Patrick Boyd (9110)
                          I would question the width of the "I" character in the Tonawanda stamp. Wide I's are common on Flint engines but Tonawanda "I"s are typically narrow.
                          I am with the "Perfessor"
                          Dick Whittington

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                          • Terry M.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • September 30, 1980
                            • 15599

                            #14
                            Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                            Originally posted by Edward Johnson (49497)
                            Steve, There are a few restoration engine companies out there that use the original engine stamps used at the factory. and it may very well be. there is a small detail I did not pick-up on the first glance when I looked at it, It appears that there are some marks on the water pump like a belt sander or milling marks. There has been some remarks about belt sanders being used to replicate the broach marks like the factory.
                            There are grind marks on the end of the head as well. No big deal.
                            Terry

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                            • Wayne M.
                              Expired
                              • March 1, 1980
                              • 6414

                              #15
                              Re: Engine Pad - 1968 L89 Opinions

                              Originally posted by Terry McManmon (3966)
                              There are grind marks on the end of the head as well. No big deal.
                              Terry -- here's one from a set of 842's cast mid to late August '67. I think the grinding was just casting flash removal. Then there's that strange symbol (looks like an "A") on the plug.



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