Re-installing 70 alarm switch

[Don L.]

Re: Re-installing 70 alarm switch

FWIW, I had an experience just as Bill describes when R&Ring my door locks. Had to flatten the clip and use grease to aid in the install. Miserable job. BTW, does anyone know why/how we have some of these cars with and some without the escutcheon? It's a big mystery to me...

[David P.]

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My understanding is the notches always face down both on the alarm and door locks. Mine can only go in one way and the notches are facing the ground.

Wish I had the old style.

When I say it is tight I actually had to carefully tap the clip in to place with a hammer. This is not one of GMs finer design elements.

Bill

Got it Bill, thanks. Pucker factor must have been high for that hammering operation Glad you have it worked out. By the way, assuming you have the same style wire terminal connections as I do, did you put any locktite or anti-sieze on the #6 terminal screws? When I removed my lock to have it re-keyed, the terminal screws were rusted into the terminals and I had to cut the screw heads off, forcibly remove the screw shafts and re-tap the holes. I just sprayed the terminals down with WD-40 upon reassembly but I'm thinking I should do something to keep that from happening again over the NEXT 44 years...

[Bill L.]

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Got it Bill, thanks. Pucker factor must have been high for that hammering operation Glad you have it worked out. By the way, assuming you have the same style wire terminal connections as I do, did you put any locktite or anti-sieze on the #6 terminal screws? When I removed my lock to have it re-keyed, the terminal screws were rusted into the terminals and I had to cut the screw heads off, forcibly remove the screw shafts and re-tap the holes. I just sprayed the terminals down with WD-40 upon reassembly but I'm thinking I should do something to keep that from happening again over the NEXT 44 years...

Hi Dave,

I was able to remove the screws intact with a little soaking. Mine were corroded so I used a dremel wire wheel to clean up the lugs on the lock assembly. Soaked the screws and lock washers in a little Evapo-rust to clean them up. Then I wire wheeled the screws too. When reassembling, I used dielectric grease. It acts as an anti-seize agent and insulator from elements and uncontrolled electrons/sparks. Same stuff the factory typically uses in headlight and other connectors.

Bill

[Bill L.]

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Hi Bill,
"These little things will just drive you nuts sometimes."
But in a good way, right!
It's amazing how good even the smallest successes can feel.
Regards,
Alan

Successes do feel good no matter how small

Bill

[David P.]

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Dielectric grease... Why didn't I think of that. Thanks Bill!

[David D.]

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Does this switch have the key code stamped on the housing? Is the 69 switch the same as the 70 you have been referring to?

[Bill L.]

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Does this switch have the key code stamped on the housing? Is the 69 switch the same as the 70 you have been referring to?

I did not see a key code on it. I would check the judging guide. Mine is for 70-72.

Bill

[Terry M.]

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Does this switch have the key code stamped on the housing? Is the 69 switch the same as the 70 you have been referring to?

Dave,
The 1969 alarm switch is the same as the early 1970 alarm switch. That is NOT the main topic of this thread, although it has been mentioned by several posters.

There are no key codes on the key or the lock of this style switch. Having said that, the PoP folder that came with my car has two key codes written on it. One is for the Ignition switch and I have no idea what the other is for, however, I know it is not for the spare tire or storage compartment lock. What that code is for or where the dealership people got it I have no idea. My memory is that there is some lettering embossed into the original alarm key. I believe either the words Briggs and Stratton or B&S are on one side, but I can not remember what if anything is on the obverse. Unfortunately the originals are with the car which is not accessible at the moment. Perhaps someone else has an original early style alarm lock and key to help enlighten us.

[David P.]

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Dave,

My appologies also to the OP since we have diverged a bit from his original question. Just to add to what Terry stated about the '69 and early '70 alarm key switch, that key has "BASCO" written on one side and some other markings on the obverse, but I don't have it available until I get home from work today. If you're interested, let me know and I'll be happy to shoot and post some pics this evening under a new thread.

[David P.]

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Sorry, BASCO is Briggs and Stratton Company.

[David D.]

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Sorry for the brief hijack, thanks for the info!

[Russ S.]

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Bill, The clip you have is incorrect It shouldn't have as distinct of a turn up on the ends. Also the original has a 1/2 to 3/4 inch long gradual hump in the middle of it instead of the short, sharp, high bump. It is the same as the one used in the door. No gasket

The problem with the clip pictured is it is turned up at the ends which just makes no sense to me. Does this look like the correct clip. I don't recall the door locks using the same clip yet the AIM calls out the same clip for both locations. Is the clip pictured in my post correct?Thanks,Bill

[Bill L.]

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Bill, The clip you have is incorrect It shouldn't have as distinct of a turn up on the ends. Also the original has a 1/2 to 3/4 inch long gradual hump in the middle of it instead of the short, sharp, high bump. It is the same as the one used in the door. No gasket

I had a hunch the clip was not quite right. I have seen a lot of the alarm switches now and there seems to be a lot of variance in terms of final TFP. Love to see a picture of a known original clip. My doors are fully assembled with door panels so I cannot see the clips for the door locks.

Below are some thoughts on TFP lock configuration:

1. Early style all seem to have the escutcheon.
2. Some later style locks seem to have the escutcheon installed.
3. Some later style locks have no gasket
4. Some later style have the gasket

I am thinking in terms of the gasket if they could get the clip on with the gasket it has a gasket. If clip would not go on with gasket they just left it off.

The later style with the escutcheon are installed that way because during the switch over they cut the bigger hole for the escutcheon and just ran out of the old style locks.

Bill

[David P.]

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Sorry for the brief hijack, thanks for the info!

Dave- see new thread I just posted (Is this a TFP Briggs & Stratton UA6 Alarm key?) for pics of my Briggs & Stratton Key if you're interested.