1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

[Mike E.]

There is a tab at the top of the rear of the door (see photo) with a hole in it. There is not a corresponding hole in the weatherstripping. The 1971 AIM (section 1, page K5) indicates that item 13 "fastener" part number 4841194 should be used there. In the 1970 AIM, section 1, p. K3, it indicates the same thing, and indicates that fastener was "added" some time in early 1969 (my AIM is unreadable in that date area). In the 1972 AIM, section 1, p. K3, there is no call out for any fastener in that area. I've looked at a 1-owner 70 convertible that has no fastener there,(March build date), at a 72 coupe that has nothing there (October 71 build). The November 1970-built 71 convertible has no evidence of anything having been there either. Does anyone have a "fastener" there that appears to be factory-installed?

[Paul O.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Mike

My Sept build Vin #1914 had that fastener installed it was a blackened finish pan head phillips screw. Was there when I acquired the car Aug 1974. Sorry no photos.

[Mike E.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Anyone else have a response on this? If nothing else, why would the 72 AIM be redrawn and not call out that fastener?
Paul, I appreciate your input. I know the other weatherstrip screws to the door are also as you describe. Why would this be called out differently in the AIM. Different length?

[Dave S.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Anyone else have a response on this? If nothing else, why would the 72 AIM be redrawn and not call out that fastener?
Paul, I appreciate your input. I know the other weatherstrip screws to the door are also as you describe. Why would this be called out differently in the AIM. Different length?

Mike,
I don't know if this photo helps. It is from 71 VIN #21467. I dont have any photos from #16798.

[Mike E.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Thanks, Dave. It's hard to see on that one. I don't see a dark shadow like I would expect if there was a screw there. The one-owner 70 with 62k miles on it that I looked at doesn't have fasteners there, but has a black sealant that looks like it was factory-applied to the rear of the weatherstrip on the inner side of that tab. It hasn't oozed through, but it has filled the holes on each door. I'll try to get a pic of that in the next day or two. Thanks again.

[Phil W.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Thanks, Dave. It's hard to see on that one. I don't see a dark shadow like I would expect if there was a screw there. The one-owner 70 with 62k miles on it that I looked at doesn't have fasteners there, but has a black sealant that looks like it was factory-applied to the rear of the weatherstrip on the inner side of that tab. It hasn't oozed through, but it has filled the holes on each door. I'll try to get a pic of that in the next day or two. Thanks again.

Mike, January built '71 has the hole but no fastener on either door. Both doors do have the black sealant as you describe above. Hope this help.

[Dave S.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Thanks, Dave. It's hard to see on that one. I don't see a dark shadow like I would expect if there was a screw there. The one-owner 70 with 62k miles on it that I looked at doesn't have fasteners there, but has a black sealant that looks like it was factory-applied to the rear of the weatherstrip on the inner side of that tab. It hasn't oozed through, but it has filled the holes on each door. I'll try to get a pic of that in the next day or two. Thanks again.

Mike,
These should help. From 71 #21467. Last week of production.

[Warren F.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

On my two '71's vin 12659 has a screw and vin 15065 does not in that location.

[Michael G.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Mike, my Dec. built '71 has hole and no fastener like Dave's photos.

[Paul O.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

The first item that should be asked is the weatherstrip the original to the car. If not later service and aftermarket weatherstrip do not come with this. I remember that original weatherstrip at this area had a metal bracket molded into the weatherstrip with a hole for the screw to lock into. Do not know when it started or when this item was deleted from production.

[Mike E.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Paul,
the three cars I cited all have unmolested original weatherstrip.

[Dave S.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Paul,
the three cars I cited all have unmolested original weatherstrip.

21467 is as original as it gets.

[Mike E.]

Re: 1971 Door weatherstrip "fastener"

Here are the tabs on both doors of the previously-cited 70. Is that black sealant, or simply the weatherstrip pushed through after 40+ years?P1132566.jpgP1132560.jpg