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  • Mike E.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • February 28, 1975
    • 5136

    #16
    Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

    It surprises me that they used a metal vacuum line most of the way from the control to the flapper. (With rubber line on each end.) The carpet gets wet, and the line rusts through. Nice design!

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    • Michael M.
      Frequent User
      • November 1, 2004
      • 64

      #17
      Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

      Mike,
      When a rodent does get in they will chew the rubber parts also. I know this as fact because mine was. I found his remains under the parking brake console, not far from where the hissing noise was coming from.When you would turn the heat on it would call for vacuum to close the vent doors. Once the hole was repaired all worked well.
      Don,
      I replaced the foam sealing material in mine several years ago. When I bought the car in 2004 it had been sitting for 15 years. In 2005 I noticed that every time I drove it there were these small sticky chunks of rubber in the rear package area. It was the seal material crumbling and being drawn into the car. Not that difficult of a repair in a conv. would be a bear on a coupe.

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      • Michael M.
        Frequent User
        • November 1, 2004
        • 64

        #18
        Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

        Terry,
        After going through flight judging in 2010 I did wonder why in was not checked in opps. Maybe in the future.

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        • Mike E.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • February 28, 1975
          • 5136

          #19
          Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

          Good point on the rubber. I'm working on the rear seal area right now on a 71 LT-1. I'm glad it's a convertible. I can reach that area with my 67 year old body much more readily.

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          • Patrick H.
            Beyond Control Poster
            • December 1, 1989
            • 11641

            #20
            Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

            Originally posted by Mike Ernst (211)
            It surprises me that they used a metal vacuum line most of the way from the control to the flapper. (With rubber line on each end.) The carpet gets wet, and the line rusts through. Nice design!
            Mike,

            Where does the line run?

            Patrick
            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
            71 "deer modified" coupe
            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
            2008 coupe
            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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            • Joe L.
              Beyond Control Poster
              • February 1, 1988
              • 43209

              #21
              Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

              Originally posted by Patrick Hulst (16386)
              Mike,

              Where does the line run?

              Patrick

              Patrick------


              In runs from the console-mounted heater control vacuum valve to the vacuum actuator for the Astro-Ventillation doors.
              In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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              • Joe L.
                Beyond Control Poster
                • February 1, 1988
                • 43209

                #22
                Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                Originally posted by Dave Strickland (21448)
                As I recall the C60 cars don't have any vacuum flappers on the rear vents.




                Dave------


                Yes, there are no operable ventillation doors on C-60-equipped Corvettes.
                In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                • Robert R.
                  Very Frequent User
                  • May 31, 1975
                  • 358

                  #23
                  Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                  That is correct. The flap areas are sealed on C60 AC cars.
                  The down side on convertibles is that you can see the top of the fuel tank through the outside vents. It caused my tank sticker to melt away as every time it got wet, the water would hit the top of the tank. Also caused me to replace the tank on mine due to metal fatigue.

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                  • Joe L.
                    Beyond Control Poster
                    • February 1, 1988
                    • 43209

                    #24
                    Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                    Originally posted by Robert Ricchio (599)
                    That is correct. The flap areas are sealed on C60 AC cars.
                    The down side on convertibles is that you can see the top of the fuel tank through the outside vents. It caused my tank sticker to melt away as every time it got wet, the water would hit the top of the tank. Also caused me to replace the tank on mine due to metal fatigue.

                    Robert------


                    The top of the fuel tank cannot be seen through the rear deck vents on my 1969 convertible. It's not A/C equipped but I don't think this should make any difference in this regard.
                    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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                    • Robert R.
                      Very Frequent User
                      • May 31, 1975
                      • 358

                      #25
                      Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                      Hi Joe,

                      When I look straight down from the deck vents on my car, a C60 equipped convertible, I see the angled black rubber flap, part of the fuel tank and even a bit of the ground.
                      There is no trough below the vent area, nor hose that is on the wheel well to divert water.
                      My tank had to be replaced when I first bought it. The rust occurred on the top panel of the tank.

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                      • Phil W.
                        Expired
                        • April 1, 1985
                        • 75

                        #26
                        Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                        The vacuum control hose routing diagram for the rear flappers is on sheet M4 in the 1971 AIM

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                        • Patrick H.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • December 1, 1989
                          • 11641

                          #27
                          Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                          Originally posted by Phil White (8667)
                          The vacuum control hose routing diagram for the rear flappers is on sheet M4 in the 1971 AIM
                          Thanks Phil. That's what I was looking for.
                          Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                          71 "deer modified" coupe
                          72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                          2008 coupe
                          Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                          • Patrick H.
                            Beyond Control Poster
                            • December 1, 1989
                            • 11641

                            #28
                            Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                            Originally posted by Joe Lucia (12484)
                            Patrick------


                            In runs from the console-mounted heater control vacuum valve to the vacuum actuator for the Astro-Ventillation doors.
                            Joe,

                            That would be the "of course it does" answer.
                            I was wondering how it was routed; perhaps that would have been a better way to phrase it.

                            Phil mentions it's on sheet M4, so I found it now.

                            Patrick
                            Vice-Chairman (West), Michigan Chapter NCRS
                            71 "deer modified" coupe
                            72 5-Star Bowtie / Duntov coupe. https://www.flickr.com/photos/124695...57649252735124
                            2008 coupe
                            Available stickers: Engine suffix code, exhaust tips & mufflers, shocks, AIR diverter valve broadcast code.

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                            • Michael M.
                              Frequent User
                              • November 1, 2004
                              • 64

                              #29
                              Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                              Originally posted by Don Lowe (44382)
                              Hi Mike.

                              I agree, it looks like it's not right, especially when compared to the coupes, no?

                              I re-did my Astro flaps last winter while replacing carpet and found the entire flap design to be kinda crummy. I figured out then, how the flaps default to open. For a while, I thought I had a faulty actuator. I looked for a replacement/spare and came up empty. Mine works fine, however, I would like to have a spare for the day I need it.

                              As pointed out here, there's nothing to keep vermin out of the car in this area, but I suppose if/when they wanna get in, they'd chew through the soft top if there wasn't an easier way in. With this being the case, I'm appreciative of the crummy design.
                              Don,
                              This is a picture of the drain hole on my 71 convertable, right side.
                              Mike

                              Astro Vent Drain.jpg

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                              • Jeff P.
                                Expired
                                • October 21, 2011
                                • 287

                                #30
                                Re: Astro-ventilation flappers on rear bulkhead

                                So the flaps on a convertible are screwed to the rear inside back panel above the carpet? As the car drives over the road, the flaps open into the rear vent area from air pressure on them? This is the area i'm concentrating on this weekend. I will sandblast the metal frames then spray satin black rustoleum. Paragon sells the flaps, gaskets, an fasteners. Any pictures available on this subject?

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