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  • Gerard F.
    Extremely Frequent Poster
    • June 30, 2004
    • 3805

    Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

    Can anyone look up the screw size with the part number above from the 67 AIM. Many years age, I replaced these screws with replacement screws from one of those complete interior sets.

    One of these screws is now stripped out and loose, which may be a part of my intermittent horn blowing problem. 67 standard steering column.
    Jerry Fuccillo
    1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968
  • Joe L.
    Beyond Control Poster
    • February 1, 1988
    • 43219

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    Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

    Originally posted by Gerard Fuccillo (42179)
    Can anyone look up the screw size with the part number above from the 67 AIM. Many years age, I replaced these screws with replacement screws from one of those complete interior sets.

    One of these screws is now stripped out and loose, which may be a part of my intermittent horn blowing problem. 67 standard steering column.
    Jerry-----


    GM #159612 was a pan head screw of thread size 8-32 and length of 5/8". A replacement for it was available until recently under GM #9438173. The only difference was that the original was phillips head whereas the replacement was torx head. It's discontinued now, anyway.
    In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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    • Timothy B.
      Extremely Frequent Poster
      • April 30, 1983
      • 5186

      #3
      Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

      Jerry,

      Try the home depot because some of the stores have sem screws and you an find phillips head with attached serrated washer screws 1/2" long in the 8-32 size.

      Also, locate a heli-coil 8-32 set and fix your hub, it will be good as new, you may be able to borrow one from a machine shop or just buy one on line.

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      • Gerard F.
        Extremely Frequent Poster
        • June 30, 2004
        • 3805

        #4
        Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

        Originally posted by Timothy Barbieri (6542)
        Jerry,

        Try the home depot because some of the stores have sem screws and you an find phillips head with attached serrated washer screws 1/2" long in the 8-32 size.

        Also, locate a heli-coil 8-32 set and fix your hub, it will be good as new, you may be able to borrow one from a machine shop or just buy one on line.

        Tim,

        Wondering if I should just tap it to a 10-24 size. What do you think?
        Jerry Fuccillo
        1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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        • Timothy B.
          Extremely Frequent Poster
          • April 30, 1983
          • 5186

          #5
          Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

          Hi Jerry,

          If you tap it to the next size how big will the screw head be compared to the 8-32 screw as that may cause interference somewhere. Also, the hole size (drill) before installing the heli-coil may be too big against the outside of the hub area not leaving enough meat there.

          I just recently fixed one on my 63 steering hub using 8-32 heli-coil and it worked fine. The biggest issue is finding a 8-32 heli-coil but they make one.

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          • Gerard F.
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            • June 30, 2004
            • 3805

            #6
            Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

            Tim,

            There isn't much meat around the screw hole in the hub. I found that the easiest and least destructive way to repair the threads was to tap the hole to a 10-32 thread and use a pan headed 10-32 X1/2" SS screw. See photos:






            See the thread on my horn problems for the rest of my activities this afternoon.

            Having fun,
            Attached Files
            Jerry Fuccillo
            1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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            • Timothy B.
              Extremely Frequent Poster
              • April 30, 1983
              • 5186

              #7
              Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

              That looks good Jerry, if the screw heads don't provide a problem it's a good repair. Do you think that was the horn problem or is the car possessed. :-)

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              • Richard M.
                Super Moderator
                • August 31, 1988
                • 11323

                #8
                Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                Jerry, that bigger screw doesn't interfere with the horn button, does it? If it's okay....you nailed it. Good.

                Rich

                p.s. Your other thread for future reference searches is here......
                https://www.forums.ncrs.org/showthre...-Horn-Problems

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                • Gerard F.
                  Extremely Frequent Poster
                  • June 30, 2004
                  • 3805

                  #9
                  Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                  Tim,

                  The only thing possessed on the car is that darn replacement signal switch. I have been through 3 so far. When this switch goes, I'll be putting my repaired original back on with the original lever screw.




                  Note that the original screw in the pic looks like it is a self threading or self locking screw and you don't need the lock washers with it. It doesn't work on any of the replacement switches I've seen, just too long.


                  At the end of this month, I will have had the car for 45 years. Here's my transfer paperwork:



                  The sum of the check and the loan was what I paid for the car. My Navy roommate was getting married and his wife to be told him to "Get rid of the Vette and get a nice family car".
                  Attached Files
                  Jerry Fuccillo
                  1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                  • Gerard F.
                    Extremely Frequent Poster
                    • June 30, 2004
                    • 3805

                    #10
                    Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                    Rich,

                    The #10 horn contact screw in place of the #8 doesn't interfere at all with the horn button. In the picture above, only the lower screw was changed to #10, the two upper ones are replacement #8's, you can seen the difference.

                    In fact with the new cancelling cam, the horn button is a lot more springier and seems to sit out further. I did the standard ops test of hitting the four quadrants and the horn button operates like new.
                    I think the key to the repair was the new cancelling cam. I guess the original cancelling cam just wore out after 46 years.
                    Jerry Fuccillo
                    1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                    • Ralph E.
                      Expired
                      • February 1, 2002
                      • 905

                      #11
                      Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                      Jerry, Interesting that you bought the car 12/27/68 and didn't have to make payments until 3/1/69. How did you manage that one?

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                      • Gerard F.
                        Extremely Frequent Poster
                        • June 30, 2004
                        • 3805

                        #12
                        Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                        Ralphie,

                        Actually, I think that was normal in those days with the NFCU. Can you imagine a car loan payment of $105.68 over 36 months, for a 67 Corvette (although a year and a half old when I got it).
                        Jerry Fuccillo
                        1967 327/300 Convertible since 1968

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                        • Joe L.
                          Beyond Control Poster
                          • February 1, 1988
                          • 43219

                          #13
                          Re: Correct screw size/thread Part no 159612 ? Horn contact screw to hub

                          Originally posted by Gerard Fuccillo (42179)
                          Ralphie,

                          Actually, I think that was normal in those days with the NFCU. Can you imagine a car loan payment of $105.68 over 36 months, for a 67 Corvette (although a year and a half old when I got it).

                          Jerry------


                          $105.68 in 1967 was the same as $738.96 today.
                          In Appreciation of John Hinckley

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