'66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

[George W.]

Can someone describe the difference between these two colors?
ie: Is one redder, or lighter than the other?
Thanks,
G

[Dick W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

'65-'66 was way darker that '67. I would say there was more black in the mixing formula

[Mike E.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

Just for comparison TCP Global has old paint chips online. Obviously you will just get a rough idea of the difference.

[George W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

Thanks Guys,
That's what I wanted to hear.

Now; I've given my paint shop the following codes, but they there is no "changeover" from the lacquer color to base/clear modern paint?

GM---WA3650
Ditzler PPG---51584
Dupont---4836 LM and 4836 DM (by the way, what's the difference between the LM and DM suffixes?)

G.

[Dick W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

Thanks Guys,
That's what I wanted to hear.

Now; I've given my paint shop the following codes, but they there is no "changeover" from the lacquer color to base/clear modern paint?

GM---WA3650
Ditzler PPG---51584
Dupont---4836 LM and 4836 DM (by the way, what's the difference between the LM and DM suffixes?)

G.

Believe LM is Lucite, DM is Dulux which was the only enamel available in the era. A lot of people waste time and energy hunting the old paint codes when there are no crossovers available. Most major manufacturers will give you a substitute paint, it is up to you or your painter to get the color exactly right. NONE of the original tints, metallics, binders, thinners/reducers are available today.

[Michael H.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

Believe LM is Lucite, DM is Dulux which was the only enamel available in the era. A lot of people waste time and energy hunting the old paint codes when there are no crossovers available. Most major manufacturers will give you a substitute paint, it is up to you or your painter to get the color exactly right. NONE of the original tints, metallics, binders, thinners/reducers are available today.

...and I know of no source for a match, or even a close match for either Milano maroon or Marlboro maroon.

[David L.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

I did a body off restoration of my 66 Corvette (Milano Maroon) from 1980 to 1995. The body was painted by a local body shop about 1988 or 1989. Before they painted the body they asked me to look at a sample of the Milano Maroon paint that they had mixed. It looked fine to me but I am no expert on the color Milano Maroon. I still have about a half gallon of the paint that has been in storage ever since.

The description on the can lid is as follows:
Honda w 1/2 met removed
9616 1st formula
(not 9616 D)
Reduced ex-slow

The description of the side of the can is as follows:
Honda 9616
(1st formula - not 9616 D)
With 1/2 metallic removed)

Dave

The paint of the car is now about 24 or 25 years old.

[Dick W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marborl Maroon

...and I know of no source for a match, or even a close match for either Milano maroon or Marlboro maroon.

Barry K has a formula on his website www.ibfun.com for Milano. Pretty close, you can shoot letdown panels to compare

[Bill W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

Dupont makes it in bc cc . Call dupont and give them the paint code ,year and the lacquer number . I have used it with good results .

[Cecil L.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

I still have an unopened gallon of Dupont Milano Maroon lacquer from 1978. Don't think there is anything on the label that would help though.

[Michael H.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

I still have an unopened gallon of Dupont Milano Maroon lacquer from 1978. Don't think there is anything on the label that would help though.

Cecil,

Not that it will help but many times the guy in the paint store that mixes the paint will write the contents/codes on the back side of the label before he puts it on the can. Unfortunately, all of the mixing colors from that era are long gone.

Also, Dupont Milano maroon lacquer from that era isn't very close to the original color.

I may still have the mixing color codes from a few different paint suppliers for Milano maroon.

[David L.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

I have a 1965 Sherwin-Williams automotive finishes booklet that shows a Milano Maroon, Met. (WA3365) paint chip. The code is "MM" with the following description:
S-W Acrylic L11 M 2454-R
Kem JK-9527
Chip No. 11G

Dave

[Cecil L.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

Thanks
I have no intention of using it. I bought it in 78 for a 65 I had and sold the car before repaint. I also have a gallon of Marina Blue that I bought at the same time for a 67 and never used it.

[George W.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

Did a test spray.

The Marlboro is much "brighter" than the Milano.

Photos/lighting make both shades appear much more Pink than in real life.









G.

[Larry M.]

Re: '66 Milano Maroon versus '67 Marlboro Maroon

George:

The Marlboro Maroon color shown is pretty, but it is nowhere close to the original color/shade.

Larry